On Love

This morning this poignant inquiry into a perennial favorite emerged from cyberspace and struck a chord: “Do you know what it means to love another? Have you ever loved anybody? Is love dependence? Is love desire? Is love pleasure? I don’t love my wife; she doesn’t love me. We are two separate individuals. We may meet sexually, otherwise we carry on in our own particular way. Do you understand, sirs? Does love exist in this country? Don’t ask, `Does it exist in Europe?’ When the speaker is in Europe, he talks about it there. But we are talking about it here as we are in this country, in this part of the world. Is there love in this country? Do you love anybody? Can love exist with fear, when each one is becoming something? Can love exist when I am becoming a saint and she is not, or she is becoming a saint and I am not, when each one is becoming? Please understand all this. It is your life. When each one is becoming something, how can there be love? Is it possible to love another without wanting a single thing from another, either emotionally, physically, in any way, not ask my wife for anything? Psychologically, she may care for my need, for I may bring money. I am not talking about that. But inwardly, love cannot exist where there is attachment. If you are attached to your guru, there is no love in your heart. This is very, very serious. Without love, there is no right action. We talk about action. We do so many kinds of social work. But when there is love in your heart, in your eyes, in your blood, in your face, you are a different human being. Whatever you do then has beauty, has grace, is a right action. All this may be excellent words you hear. But will you have this quality? It cannot be cultivated, it cannot be practised, it cannot be bought from your guru, from anywhere. But without that, you are dead human beings. So what will you do? Please do ask this question, find out for yourself why this flame does not exist, why you have become such paupers. Unless you put your house in order, your house, which is yourselves, there will be no order in the world. You may meditate for the rest of your life; but without that, your meditation has no meaning. So, please, most respectfully we are asking, what is your response?” J. Krishnamurti  

Krishnamurti Video and Dialogue Meeting

  Krishnamurti Video and Dialogue Event Sunday, April 13, 2014. Location:  Church of Truth in Victoria         The video showing of a talk by J. Krishnamurti was attended by ten people.   An Ojai talk from 1982 focusing on the causes of conflict was shown,  followed by a group dialogue.   K spoke about the importance of contacting the feeling of wholeness in ourselves, the factors of fragmentation and conflict, and the significance of love and beauty, amongst other subjects.  Questions arose from participants regarding the possibility of living without fragmentation in daily life and activity, what kind of awareness is necessary for living in a non-fragmented way, and the tendency of the mind to make a “knowing” or concept out of any insight or understanding that takes place.   As usual in these discussions, there was an investigation into the sense of a “self” and the implications of acting from a psychological “centre”.    A further exploration started up towards the end of the session considering the question, “Is it thought that becomes aware of its own limitations or is it something beyond thought – that we might call awareness – that is aware of the limitations of thought?”   The investigation was left to be continued in a future session.

The Art of Listening

Came across this reminder today about the art of listening, with nature, the great teacher, now in full bloom at the Centre:   “Bring awareness to the many subtle sounds of nature-the rustling of leaves in the wind, raindrops falling, the humming of an insect, the first birdsong at dawn. Give yourself completely to the act of listening. Beyond the sounds there is something greater: a sacredness that cannot be understood through thought.” J. Krishnamurti

The Poetry of “K”

A friend sent this K quote yesterday. At one time I seemed to be totally in love with his teaching or non-teaching, which I am sure he would prefer. I think I read almost all of his books and watched many hours of his recorded video talks. But I, like a lot of other so-called seekers, really didn’t understand exactly what he was saying or pointing to. And I still don’t! Now I know there are lots of so-called K experts that attempt to explain what he was saying, and I am in no way belittling anything they might say. However, I think the very fact that he couldn’t really be understood was what seemed so compelling about what he said… that, and the fact that there was finality to his words that somehow seemed irrefutably true. It’s funny, but Wikipedia and others classify his non-teaching as philosophy. And I think he might cringe at that label. For me his words were more like good poetry, or Leonard Cohen’s songs:; one didn’t really understand what’s being said but somehow loved to listen to or read it anyway. – J. Krishnamurti Commentaries on Living Series I Chapter 41 Awareness “Problems will always exist where the activities of the self are dominant. To be aware which are and which are not the activities of the self needs constant vigilance. This vigilance is not disciplined attention, but an extensive awareness which is choiceless. Disciplined attention gives strength to the self; it becomes a substitute and a dependence. Awareness, on the other hand, is not self-induced, nor is it the outcome of practice; it is understanding the whole content of the problem, the hidden as well as the superficial. The surface must be understood for the hidden to show itself; the hidden cannot be exposed if the surface mind is not quiet. This whole process is not verbal, nor is it a matter of mere experience. Verbalization indicates dullness of mind; and experience, being cumulative, makes for repetitiousness. Awareness is not a matter of determination, for purposive direction is resistance, which tends towards exclusiveness. Awareness is the silent and choiceless observation of what is; in this awareness the problem unrolls itself, and thus it is fully and completely understood. A problem is never solved on its own level; being complex, it must be understood in its total process. To try to solve a problem on only one level, physical or psychological, leads to further conflict and confusion. For the resolution of a problem, there must be this awareness, this passive alertness which reveals its total process.”  

A Weekend Retreat

Weekend Retreat with Dr. Ravi Ravindra “Self-knowledge and the Awakening of Intelligence” March 21 – 23, 2014 The retreat opened with a talk by Dr. Ravindra at the Swanwick Centre (KECC) on Friday evening at 7 pm.   It was very well attended by thirty people.   Dr. Ravindra discussed some of the subtleties of the words used in the title of the retreat.   For example, the word “self” has many different levels of meaning in different spiritual traditions and even within the same tradition.   Knowledge may refer to various kinds of knowing and understanding.   Similarly, “awakening” and “intelligence”.    The material provided for some interesting exploration and the audience had numerous questions to put to Dr. Ravindra at the completion of the talk. Some participants stayed on site for the weekend while others commuted each day.  Altogether 15 people attended the weekend.   Dr. Ravindra started off the morning on both Saturday and Sunday with a twenty minute guided meditation on relaxation and receptivity, that demonstarted the power of awareness to create change.  The rest of the time was spent in a number of activities such as a meditative nature walk on the property, some small group explorations on the topic of self-knowledge,  and a number of talks and group discussions about Krishnamurti’s teachings.  At one point the group moved up to the Guest Cottage for some simple movement exercises along with some musical accompaniment by one of the participants. Dr. Ravindra has a wealth of experience with Krishnamurti, including numerous personal meetings, and was able to share many stories and introduce points of discussion with the purpose of shedding some light on the man and, more particularly, on our own process of self exploration in relation to K’s expression of truth.  This was supplemented on Saturday night with a video of K speaking on “What Is Meditation?”, a powerful presentation which produced a desire to remain with it in silence until retiring to bed. The retreat ended with a group discussion considering to what extent we are controlling the events of our lives and whether there is any permanent self.   It became clear that some of these deeper questions are not easy to answer and there may be a number of angles or perspectives that could be taken which may not be mutually exclusive.   The real situation may not be linear or logical in the conventional way at all. The feedback showed that participants felt very pleased with the weekend and the value they had derived from the experience.  

Retreat Musings

A Gathering with Ravi   Murmurs hover over steaming mugs of tea in the main house as people gather for the next adventure in truth (a path less land according to Krishnamurti)   It’s tough going at times, listening to Krishnamurti’s recordings – a compact yet intensely vehement man from another era, so brisk in his delivery. The complimentary dimension that Ravi Ravindra brings offers a gentle intelligence and humble insight into how Krishnamurti’s words have impacted his own awareness and perceptions.   The implications I take away are simple but not obvious. Integrating Krishnamurti’s pointers with my own experience I take the following away from this exceptional retreat:   Give authority to nobody when it comes to spiritual intelligence – my inner senses will take me to a natural essential experience of truth   Freedom comes when I am able to detach from my mental/emotional history – the stories, feelings and symbols that enshroud my pure essence   Release from these entanglements is effortless, through quiet observation of my inner world and fearless acknowledgement of the thoughts and judgements I hold about the ‘me’ I think I am   In the light of awareness the false sense of self dissolves – leaving me here in the now with truth and divinity   Thank you to Ravi Ravindra, to Krishnamurti and to Swanwick for this oasis of reflection and insight!     Other musings emerging during the retreat…     Still Embrace   God finds his way through the stillness   Emerging drenched in life in the chatter of a songbird – or — in the new rings of an old oak tree   Stillness waits, expecting nothing, but revelling in its gentle dance with love-imbued forms   Like the earth under Buddha’s tender feet after finding enlightenment, the creations around us can only thrive and blossom when gazed upon from our still awareness   Even the nest of old bricks – men’s work – reverberate with life in the quiet embrace of Swanwick’s hidden places  

Not Minding What Happens

Just came across this quote by Eckhart Tolle while busy with catching up after a two week absence. It reminds me of K’s ‘secret’ that “I don’t mind what happens”: “By knowing yourself as the awareness in which phenomenal existence happens, you become free of dependency on phenomena and free of self seeking in situations, places, and conditions. In other words, what happens or doesn’t happen is not that important anymore. Things lose their heaviness, their seriousness. A playfulness comes into your life. You recognize this world as a cosmic dance, the dance of form. No more and no less.”

Good News…We Won!

The Olympic Games are in full swing and this morning someone said … “Hey good news, we won!” My reply was, “What did we win?” “The hockey game!” Came the response. She then asked if I followed the Olympics. I said, no not really, I tend not to have any interest in team competition. From here especially agressive team competition is divisive and tends to divide people leading to all kinds of other conflict, violence and  even war. I like to fly over different apparent countries and see if I can see any dotted lines in the landscape to separate one country from another. This brought up the subject of “pride”. I tried to explain that if one identifies with a country, a race, a cause and especially one’s personality, then pride will rear its ugly head and cause conflict. And I am emphatically not against any sport or competing per se, it is all part of what is at the moment, and it’s all good. Later I goggled J. Krishnamurti links on this website and found this quote. K went far deeper into this subject and most of his talks and writings centred on the apparent conflict caused by identifying with the apparent “I” or self of the personality – with most of the conflict being seemingly internal, rather than external or “out there.” “Man has accepted conflict as an innate part of daily existence because he has accepted competition, jealousy, greed, acquisitiveness and aggression as a natural way of life. When we accept such a way of life we accept the structure of society as it is and live within the pattern of respectability. And that is what most of us are caught in because most of us want to be terribly respectable. When we examine our own minds and hearts, the way we think, the way we feel and how we act in our daily lives, we observe that as long as we conform to the pattern of society, life must be a battlefield.” Jiddu Krishnamurti – Freedom from the Known  

A Closer Look at the Observer

From the standpoint of Absolute Being, let’s take closer look at the “observer” and so-called relative world and what science sometimes calls the unified field of energy, because it appears it is a hot topic today. Unified field. Hmmm…if ever there was a complex, nuclear-physics-sounding, excuse-me-while-I-mentally-numb-out-for-the-next-few-paragraphs term, that’s it. If one speaks of this unified field in terms of physics, it is complex. If one were to speak of the human scene or what some call the relative or finite world, science has long said the underlying or driving force of the entire so-called “universe” appears to be energy. But this energy also appears to be in a constant state of random reaction. It implies that all events in the universe occur randomly, or by sheer chance. Scientists have puzzled that, if there is an Omniscience, An All-Knowing One – how could it have a hand in something based on randomness or chance – instead of certainty, intelligence, permanence? Even Einstein wasn’t able to explain it, but said he couldn’t accept the notion of a God that “plays dice” with the universe. A key issue is that this constantly reacting field of energy appears to be the very “source” or cause underlying the entire stellar universe, all matter, and all human experience. Constantly changing energy is what appears to “drive” the whole universe; it appears to cause all movement, change and time. This energy also seems to have qualities of being self-replenishing or “eternal”, which is why it’s so tantalizing to human thinking. To say something is the cause or “creator” of a universe, and also eternal, may sound like a description of “God” to a human way of thinking. Is it? From a human “observer” viewpoint, energy is said to be the key to science’s long-sought “Theory Of Everything.” Energy may be the key to everything finite – but it’s not the key to Reality or Being. This energy can seem puzzling, too. On one hand, it is constantly reacting and changing. Yet when seen in its entirety as one whole, the vast energy field underlying the universe appears to be unchanging. It seems unaffected by time, or “eternal.” How could it be both at once – always changing, yet never changing? Is it an unsolvable paradox? To try to explain it the human sensing “mind” has two ways of looking at its energy field. The first sees energy in terms of its parts; those parts would be the tiny atomic particles, waves or strings, and other finite forms of energy known to physicists – always vibrating, reacting and changing in time. Seen this way, since these forms vibrate and move in never-present time, they’re never truly being. They never stop changing to be what really is, so they couldn’t be called Reality. These forms also can be measured or calculated to some extent by scientists, which means they’re finite, and not the Infinite. In contrast, when this energy field is taken as one whole, everything appears different. Seen in its entirety and not as separate parts, the energy field appears constant, in a state of balance. It’s the way every action has an equal and opposite reaction, keeping it in equilibrium overall. Seen as a whole, the energy field never changes, never gains or looses anything. That is why it appears “eternal.” As a whole, it is also too vast to measure – thus has been called infinite. So which is this energy field – a lot of parts or one whole? Is energy finite or infinite; mortal or divine? Or why can’t it be both at once? Some might say this is the same paradox spoken of in Eastern religions – that the universe is both – simultaneous a state of change and non-change. Wait a minute. Are there really two states in the first place – both Infinite Being and also a relative finite realm of non-being? Do the two states co-exist? WHO SAYS SO? Only a finite human “sense-mind” would be trying to say there are two states – both Infinite Being and also a relative finite realm of time, non-being. Infinite Being Itself isn’t saying any such thing. From the standpoint of Infinite Being, there is only Itself – the Infinite, endless, borderless One. And Infinite Being is all that is being to be anything. The only thing assuming there are two states – that in addition to One changeless Being, there also is a changing finite realm of energy, time and non-being – would be the so-called finite mind! But that’s the “mind” that never is being! As that “mind” doesn’t truly exist, one can’t go by what it would try to say. Infinite Being is all that truly is, which leaves One Realm – Its own. To “look out as” Infinite Being (and there’s no choice, since nothing else is being) is to see that Being never comes to an end of Its Absolute Being. Again, at no point in Being could a state of anything not Itself – non-Being, or time – ever have begun, because if it’s not-Being, it’s not being! There is only the specific, utter Presence of Being. This is clear only by identifying as the Infinite Being You are – which is something that would-be human thinking never does. The only answer to the seeming “paradox” is to start from, or as, Being. AGAIN…WHO SAYS SO? As the finite sensing “mind” completely is not being, it simply couldn’t be a valid basis for knowing anything real or true. All it would purportedly know, including its universe of energy and time, its paradoxes, and most of all, itself and all of its “observations”, equally is not being. In fact, it would be the same one “sense-mind” that seems to play both roles – the “mind” comprises both the universe of energy that is observed, and acts as the thinker that is “observing” and trying to account for that universe – for the universe has no existence apart from the “mind.” But none of it ever is. It’s the cat of non-being chasing its own tail!

Another Look at the Observer

Another notion in philosophy and science concerns the nature of the “observer.”     Who “observes” or knows Existence exists?     The only one to know or define Existence must be Itself. Anything that is not Existence Itself doesn’t exist to know anything! The starting point can be only Existence, Being Itself. And It doesn’t really start with Itself, for there never has been a stop. As Existence Itself is all that exists as Pure Consciousness, It really never is being observed by a separate mind or consciousness, for there isn’t one.     Not even Existence, Consciousness, observes Itself as is sometimes believed, for all observation would occur only in the realm of the “sense-mind” and time, which is non-being. To give consideration to non-being or what it claims to observe, would be foolhardy labor in the labyrinth of the intellect – which itself never stops moving in time – and would be only more of the same non-existence. Being never is known by non-being.     The term “self-referral” is sometimes used, but not even that is accurate. Re-ferral means to know again, also implying time, non-being. Thanks to Existence being Conscious, Alive Intelligence, It “knows” It is by cognizantly or knowingly being. Its Absoluteness leaves no room for question or doubt, no impulse for investigation.     There can be no approach to Existence, no differing theories. There is no wrong approach, nor a correct one, for there is no approach to All, and none to approach It.     So-called finite human thinking , whose very basis would be time, cause and effect, can’t accept that Being just is, alone, without a reason or cause, without an observer. Yet the would be finite observer functioning in time is the one that never is, hence is entirely false.     There is no point at which Divine Love, the Existence I Am, comes to an end – and nowhere does non-existence begin to be. That’s worth repeating – for it means literally is no end to the Love I Am. My Infinitely Present Being, thus all of Existence, consists only of the endless reach of unconditionally present, unrestrainable, un-shut-off-able Love. Love Is What Existence Is These two words aren’t seen in the same sentence too often. What exactly is this sentence saying? Love is what Existence is. It isn’t saying Love is in Existence. It isn’t saying Love fills all of Existence. It’s saying Love Itself is what Existence is. It’s not talking about what seems to be seen, by way of the eye, what seems to be felt by way of the touch or by way of an emotion; or anything seemingly experienced by the five senses or thought. It’s saying Love. And Love is another way of saying this Purity…this Unconditional-ness with which Self’s Pure Presence is freely, unstoppably, unwitholdably, present as Harmony, Oneness, Peace, Bliss, Warmth, All that is. What Love is to Itself. Not to another, but what Love is as Its own Presence only. This is what Existence is. Now, on what basis is this being said? How can this be? First of all, does Existence really exist? Let’s get real basic with this. Do you honestly truly exist? And if you do, as what do you truly exist? How do you exist? And How do you know for certain? In fact is there actually another to accept or reject that Existence is now existent? Is it something that is up to a personal thinking mind or a personality? The simple fact that you know the question is being asked means you exist. Existence or Consciousness has to be or there would be no consciousness of anything, not even the question. It certainly is clear now that there is such a thing as being. One must admit that one is now aware…that Awareness is aware. And that one, by the way is not a person or personality. It is Awareness Itself being this presently existing awareness. Put it this way. One could not be presently aware as that which does not exist. So, there it is. And a thought might come, with some of these sayings… “Am I a man dreaming or am I a dream dreaming I am a man?” Actually, neither one of those two. Neither man nor a dream is this presently aware Aliveness, here now. Pure Being Itself. A man or a dream would be just two finite things one appears to sense or seemingly is aware of. Experienced by way of the mind and time. And it’s entirely thanks to the fact that Consciousness is or exists that even one could even mention man or dream One must also admit the fact that only Consciousness is. Nothing else can genuinely be, because nothing else is present. Nothing or no thing in time, nothing in any dream appearance, or nothing seeming relative or finite, or that which is-not. What the deeper meaning is, is that Existence is, Love Is, Consciousness is, All is. Existence is NOT inclusive of time or dream characters…they have no existence!  Existence or Love is preclusive of any relative, time-bound is-not-ness.                    Excerpt from Chapter 19 ‘Love is what Existence Is’ in Consciousness Is All by Peter Francis Dziuban