Meditative Self-inquiry with Mukesh Gupta
August 1, 2020
KECC online
This Zoom online meeting with Mukesh Gupta from Varanasi, India, was attended by a total of twenty people from diverse locations. The second in a series of eight presentations, this session was focused on the topic “Why Is There No Peace and Love in Our Relationships?” This, Mukesh pointed out, is a central question in most people’s lives. It is a question to be held in our consciousness until an authentic response arises from a deep inquiry into our own behaviour, beliefs, and conditioning around the subject of love.
After a slide presentation of a short history of the universe and human evolution, Mukesh entered into a discussion of various significant questions and facts within the field of relationship. He drew, as usual, on his deep understanding of the teachings of J. Krishnamurti.
– Life is a movement in relationship
– What we are the world is
– Relationship is a mirror in which we can learn about ourselves. If we are serious about learning, then relationship is a ground for self-transformation
– Why do our relationships become stagnant? What is the cause of suffering in relationships?
– Relationships are usually based on images, self-interest, and the search for pleasure
– Images and memories are unstable and attachment to them cannot offer real security
– The sense of self and other is created and sustained by thought and is essentially an illusion
– Why do we hurt others and get hurt? Why is fear so dominant in our lives?
– Seeing clearly is the end of suffering. Self-inquiry is necessary.
– Core aspects of self-inquiry are attention, listening, looking, and love. They are not separate and must be an expression of one’s whole being
Mukesh covered further aspects of the art of asking real questions and staying with them in silent watchfulness. This can dissolve the causes of suffering and create space for the flowering
of love and peace, which have no cause. He then opened the floor to questions from the audience and probed deeply into the issues raised. His final summary was to the effect that total perception is the end of suffering and the opening to love. We look forward to his next presentation on August 15 on the topic of fear and insecurity.
Meditative Self-inquiry with Mukesh Gupta
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauMeditative Self-inquiry with Mukesh Gupta
August 1, 2020
KECC online
This Zoom online meeting with Mukesh Gupta from Varanasi, India, was attended by a total of twenty people from diverse locations. The second in a series of eight presentations, this session was focused on the topic “Why Is There No Peace and Love in Our Relationships?” This, Mukesh pointed out, is a central question in most people’s lives. It is a question to be held in our consciousness until an authentic response arises from a deep inquiry into our own behaviour, beliefs, and conditioning around the subject of love.
After a slide presentation of a short history of the universe and human evolution, Mukesh entered into a discussion of various significant questions and facts within the field of relationship. He drew, as usual, on his deep understanding of the teachings of J. Krishnamurti.
– Life is a movement in relationship
– What we are the world is
– Relationship is a mirror in which we can learn about ourselves. If we are serious about learning, then relationship is a ground for self-transformation
– Why do our relationships become stagnant? What is the cause of suffering in relationships?
– Relationships are usually based on images, self-interest, and the search for pleasure
– Images and memories are unstable and attachment to them cannot offer real security
– The sense of self and other is created and sustained by thought and is essentially an illusion
– Why do we hurt others and get hurt? Why is fear so dominant in our lives?
– Seeing clearly is the end of suffering. Self-inquiry is necessary.
– Core aspects of self-inquiry are attention, listening, looking, and love. They are not separate and must be an expression of one’s whole being
Mukesh covered further aspects of the art of asking real questions and staying with them in silent watchfulness. This can dissolve the causes of suffering and create space for the flowering
of love and peace, which have no cause. He then opened the floor to questions from the audience and probed deeply into the issues raised. His final summary was to the effect that total perception is the end of suffering and the opening to love. We look forward to his next presentation on August 15 on the topic of fear and insecurity.
UVic Stillness Within Meetup on July 25th – Cultivating Equanimity
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauWe had a fun time with this virtual get together in July – five of us looked at some practices that may prove useful in reducing stress, increasing a sense of well-being and strengthening overall emotional resilience. We listened to a few video clips including a guided excerpt from Rick Hanson’s “Meditations for Happiness”. The group shared some of their own strategies such as reframing challenges as opportunities to grow and evolve ourselves. We also talked about Lester Levenson’s story – a man who discovered that his key to enduring peace and happiness was to find love within every relationship… and to use his own form of personal inquiry to see what might be in the way of love fully expressing.
Krishnamurti points to love as a wellspring of deep inner peace and comfort as well:
“The moment you have in your heart this extraordinary thing called love and feel the depth, the delight, the ecstasy of it, you will discover that for you the world is transformed.”
On the other hand, K. often can pose some fun, almost opposite points of view, depending on the context of what he is trying to get across. Here he suggests that happiness is not something to be pursued:
“Happiness is strange; it comes when you are not seeking it. When you are not making an effort to be happy, then unexpectedly, mysteriously, happiness is there, born of purity, of a loveliness of being.”
Whether we can or can’t bring about our own deep joy and peace could be debated at length. Still, it’s really a joy to gather, to share our inspirations and challenges and to let the stories fall away for a spell, just to be.
Thanks to the KECC for supporting this enriching meetup!
Self Study Meeting, July 19, 2020
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauSelf Study Meeting
July 19, 2020
Online Zoom
This event was an experiment in the sense of offering an opportunity to explore further into the subjects presented on the previous day by Mukesh Gupta from India. Interested people could attend one or both events. Nine of us were present online for the Sunday session. Focusing, as Mukesh had, on the topic of “Self-knowledge”, participants were invited to read in advance some relevant selections from The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti and to bring any questions, comments, or insights to the meeting for sharing in the group dialogue. They could also bring questions and insights from the previous day’s session with Mukesh.
It turned out to be a fruitful experiment, with many deep questions and valuable insights arising during the group sharing. It seemed like an appropriate balance between Mukesh’s style of presentation and David’s guidance through the Self Study meeting, which included a short guided meditation and an interactive sharing between participants. The experience was apparently enjoyable and of value.
Meditative Self Inquiry with Mukesh Gupta, July 18, 2020
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauMeditative Self Inquiry
With Mukesh Gupta
Zoom Online July 18, 2020
All included, nineteen people were present for this late afternoon Zoom meeting sponsored by the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada. The session was facilitated by Mukesh Gupta from Varanasi, India. Mukesh communicates the essence of J. Krishnamurti’s teachings in a clear and concise manner and responds to audience questions with a directness and understanding that seems to be very helpful. Between now and November, he will be offering a series of eight talks and dialogues exploring K’s teachings. The focus of this, the first of the eight sessions, was “Self-knowledge as a Door to Freedom”. Mukesh gave a talk with slides and then fielded questions. Some of the issues presented and discussed were the following:
– The unexamined life is not worth living
– What you are, the world is.
– What doe it mean to know oneself?
– Knowing or understanding anything brings freedom.
– How do I know myself? Is there any instrument for self-knowing other than thought?
– The “I” may be created by thought!
– We may not be in control.
– Is direct perception free of conditioning? What is its effect?
– The self is a reaction of thought. What happens if there is awareness of these reactions?
– Any deep question dropped into one’s consciousness will bring about silence, Examples of such questions: What am I? What is this “I” or “self”? Is there a self without the thinking process? Is there a self if there is no reaction to “what is”? What kind of existence does this non-reactive self have?
There were quite a variety of questions from the participants, who also expressed appreciation for Mukesh’s presence and the sponsorship by KECC.
The Urgency of Change Dialogue Meeting, July 12, 2020
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauThe Urgency of Change Dialogue Meeting
Sunday, July 12, 2020
Zoom online
Nine participants were present for this Sunday afternoon meeting. Our focus for this session was the third chapter of the J. Krishnamurti book The Urgency of Change, which group members had explored on their own before coming to the meeting. We began with five minutes of quiet sitting with the question “What is the root of fear?” Krishnamurti has said that the cause of fear is thought, but what is it exactly about thought that is responsible for the experience of fear? Can the process of thought be seen at a level that can create a shift in our relationship to fear?
We then entered a group sharing of what had been discovered during the meditation or in our ongoing self-inquiry. The sharing was lively and extended out to touching upon the main topics discussed in the chapter on fear, such as dependency, being with “emptiness”, the search for security, and the results of comparing ourselves with others or with an ideal version of ourselves. Can we look at these issues in our lives without escaping from them into abstractions and quick answers or solutions? The discussion provoked some exploration of Krishnamurti’s suggestions for looking and listening without naming our experience and without creating a division between the observer and the observed. The inquiry seemed to be valuable.
After the meeting a few of us explored our impressions of the event. It was suggested that it might be helpful to slow down the speed of the communication at times, perhaps by simply putting attention on such things as our feet on the ground or our breathing. Other simple “grounding” techniques might be of use. Perhaps some pointers on the nature of dialogue might be pertinent, for example the practice of “suspending” or holding up our thoughts and feelings in the circle with space to look at them and question any assumptions or agendas in expressing our ideas. That can be explored more fully at our next meeting.
Reading over the chapter on fear again might be valuable. The next reading will be “How to Live in this World”. I will send out more details about our planned meetings soon.
DB.
Facing a World in Crisis with Mukesh Gupta, June 25 – 30, 2020
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauFacing a World in Crisis
Six online sessions with Mukesh Gupta
June 25 – 30, 2020
A series of six online talks and discussions with Mukesh Gupta from Varanasi, India, were sponsored by the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada during the last week of June. Mukesh has been deeply involved with Krishnamurti’s teachings for a long time and given presentations in India, Europe, and the USA. He has also previously led retreats at the Krishnamurti Centre near Victoria, British Columbia. The number of participants attending the sessions varied from twenty-two to twenty-six, including Mukesh and K Centre staff.
Mukesh opened his first presentation with a survey of the development of the universe, as far as we know it, and the evolution of the human being. He pointed out that the “conditioning” of the human being must be looked at from a universal perspective rather than a personal one. We are all subject to similar conditioning factors, which include thinking and image-making, the weaving of stories and the identification with them, preoccupation with what “should be” and “becoming”, and a desire for security and pleasure with its shadow, fear.
Mukesh asked if we can be free of conditioning and suggested that only through being aware of it can there be freedom. Seeing illusion as illusion is the end of it. It is essential to ask an authentic question, and one such question is the inquiry into why we are not aware of our insensitivity to life and other beings. Is there a lack of the sense of togetherness, affection, and love? And why do we have so little peace and harmony in our lives? Can we stay with such important questions?
Over the six days Mukesh covered topics such as listening, looking, learning, leisure, the art of living, self-knowledge as the door to freedom, the constituents of our suffering, the power of choiceless awareness, passionate attention, the nature of the self or “me”, and other related subjects. Many questions were raised by the participants and clearly addressed by Mukesh. There were opportunities to break into small groups and have more intimate sharing. Questions and issues could also be shared by email. Appropriately, the final session focused on the nature of “meditation”.
Mukesh is very adept at presenting Krishnamurti’s teachings clearly and responding to issues that arise in the study and integration of the teachings into our daily lives. We are grateful for his willingness to join us and to be a meaningful part of the Centre’s programs. He will be with us again beginning July 18 for a further round of online meetings.
UVic Stillness Within Virtual Meet-up with Canela Michelle Myers on June 20th
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauThe meet up with Canela Michelle Myers was our first ever virtual meet up. Technically there were no surprises (whew) and we had a nicely rounded out group taking part mostly from the local community, and a few from further abroad such as the UK. All in all, there were about 15 people who took part and asked some really evocative questions.
Of course Canela’s approach is often founded on being fully present with what is and that includes being present with our own internal experience of discomfort, anxiety or other emotions.
We had a wonderful sharing from Canela and many of those who took part found themselves often pointed back toward their own inner teacher of direct experience. In some cases Canela asked one key question: from spaciousness, being with this discomfort, can we say yes to this experience? is there love here? Or can this become love if we sit with it in wholeness?
Krishnamurti once said: “You can only be afraid of what you think you know.” This in some ways was apropos for our time together with Canela. A few members were looking into reactions to recent world events or – more intimate sources of anxiety. Canela’s gentle invitation was to put knowing aside, and allow the light of truth to shine through… by simply noticing without judgement. For many, this is the true spirit of self inquiry!
Thank you to the KECC for supporting this event!
Self Study Meeting, June 21, 2020
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauSelf Study Meeting
Sunday, June 21, 2010
Zoom online
Six of us were in attendance for this Sunday morning online session. Our focus was the February 16 entry in The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti. The selection is entitled “Action Without Idea”. The entry is just one paragraph in length but it is rich with significant pointers to truths that are at the core of Krishnamurti’s teachings. In several ways he asks us to go beyond the bundle of ideas which is the “me”. The mind may then be silent and in a state of experiencing. “Then one shall know what truth is”.
We began with a short guided meditation, read the text, enjoyed a few minutes of silent contemplation, then opened the discussion to an exploration of what participants had found remarkable about the passage. There were quite a number of questions and comments from all the group participants and the dialogue was penetrating and meaningful. This was confirmed by the feedback at the end of the session. The intensity of presence generated in the group created a sense of clarity and a sensitivity of awareness felt by the writer when taking a walk outdoors after the meeting.
Self Study Meeting, Sunday, June 7, 2020
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauSelf Study Meeting
Sunday, June 7, 2020
Online
Five of us met via Zoom online to explore The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti. We have been moving slowly through the entries in the text for some months now. The selection for this gathering was the February 15 entry entitled “Direct Observation”. Participants agreed that the ideas presented here by K are very much at the core of his teachings. He points out that, if we stay with the fact rather than moving to its opposite, we eliminate in one stroke the conflict of the opposite, the struggle between what is and what should be. The mind is then “completely concerned with what is and with the understanding of what is.” The energy is liberated to face the fact. K also touches on issues of a dull mind, control, suppression, and other questions.
After a guided meditation and a sharing by group members of their responses to the chapter, we discussed the depth and meaning of the passage. Everyone had beautiful and profound perceptions to contribute to the conversation and expressed great appreciation for the opportunity to join together to investigate such meaningful issues.
The Urgency of Change Dialogue Group, May 27, 2020
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauThe Urgency of Change Dialogue Group
Thursday, May 27, 2020
Via Zoom (online)
This was an extra meeting for those in the Urgency of Change Dialogue Group who wished to have some contact beyond the one scheduled monthly meeting. It was a beautiful sunny day, which may have created less likelihood of large attendance at this early evening session. Four of us were present to explore the last half of Chapter 2 in The Urgency of Change by J. Krishnamurti. The chapter is entitled “Is There a God?” Krishnamurti discusses the subject of belief and illusion, what is left when there is no illusion, the sacredness of “what is”, the changing nature of the observed and the observer, and then moves with the “questioner” into the nature of love. The focus on “God” shifts to an investigation of love wherein K states that love is when “you” are not.
After some initial silence we read through the second part of the chapter together and discussed our impressions, insights, and questions stimulated by the passage. We explored what is involved in accessing the sacredness that K speaks of and the state of love that is so important in resolving our human problems. There were many heart-felt expressions from the participants and a sense of direct and concrete experiencing of what was being inquired into. It seemed that the opportunity to have the extra time together was greatly appreciated by each participant.
Next month’s “extra” meeting will be focused on Chapter 4 in the same book, The chapter is entitled “How to Live in this World”