Self Study Meeting, November 15, 2020

Self Study Meeting

Sunday, November 15, 2020

Zoom online

 

This Sunday morning meeting online was attended by 16 participants, all included. We continued with a question asked by Mukesh in his presentation a week previously: “Is There a Completely Different Way of Living?” The Self Study Meetings have been using The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti as an inspiration for our inquiry into the nature of ourselves. In this case participants had been asked to read carefully at least eight selections from the November entries and to bring observations and questions to the meeting for sharing and discussion. The entries quoted passages from Krishnamurti’s talks on the subjects of “Living, Dying, Rebirth, and Love” and seemed to blend well with Mukesh’s question.

After a guided meditation exploring awareness without naming or conceptualizing, we entered a group discussion of people’s experiences and insights during the meditation along with those that emerged from their readings of the text. A number of participants reported profound insights and the dialogue as a whole was quite deep and engaging. Such topics as the meaning of psychological death were explored with keen penetration, and appreciation was expressed for the opportunity to share such inquiry with others in this way.

The Urgency of Change Dialogue Group Meeting, November 8, 2020

The Urgency of Change Dialogue Group Meeting

Sunday, November 8, 2020

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A few members of the group could not attend our gathering this time, resulting in a meeting of five participants. Our focus was on the chapter entitled “Discipline” in the Krishnamurti book The Urgency of Change. As well as some references to the text, participants also raised a number of interesting questions related more generally to the process of dialogue and self-inquiry. It was asked if we are entering into the new in our exploration or just repeating what we already know. It seemed like an excellent question which provoked some inquiry without perhaps coming to any final conclusion. In fact the limitation of all conclusions was pointed out and discussed. Another subject of investigation was the nature of the “I” or “me”. What are we referring to when we use such words? Is there a “self” that can be defined or said to be a real entity? These seem to be questions worthy of looking into in a way that can perhaps bring fresh insight. The nature of awareness and attention was questioned and their nature as non-conceptual, non-objective, indescribable, and ungraspable was explored, again with an emphasis on looking without conclusions. Perhaps such an inquiry is an opening to the “new”, to something beyond thought.

Some statements about “saints” made by Krishnamurti in the chapter were questioned by one group member and feedback requested from participants. The discussion moved in the direction of wondering about the need for compassion and non-judgement in our perceptions and conceptions. Again we left some openness around the question. The session invited sharing from all participants and hopefully provoked ongoing inquiry in our daily lives until our next meeting in December, the last one for 2020.

Is There a Different Way of Living?

Is There a Different Way of Living in This World of Confusion and Uncertainty?

With Mukesh Gupta

November 7, 2020, online

This was the last in a series of eight presentations by Mukesh Gupta on the general topic of “Meditative Self-Inquiry” which began in July and took place twice a month. Twenty-three people in total participated in this Zoom online meeting focusing on the question “Is There a Different Way of Living in This World of Confusion and Uncertainty?” Mukesh began, after a short silent sit, by pointing out that what is outside us is a reflection of what we are inside and of our day-to-day relationships. Are we willing to look into “the mirror of relationship”, as Krishnamurti puts it? We must begin where we are, paying attention to what is around us and within us, noticing our inattention, our fear and uncertainty, and our obsessive self-concern and lack of love. Can we be awake to these facts without judgement?

Mukesh explored the nature of attention as pure seeing:

– Choiceless, non-selective

– Deep, total listening

– With a quality of love

– A quality of wonder and innocence not dependent on acquired past knowledge

– A space of stillness or “emptiness”

Not to react like a robot is a different way of living. Can we live and face the world with the intelligence of a still and compassionate mind that sees clearly?

The half-hour presentation was followed by a Q & A period wherein participants shared insights, experiences, and questions. It was suggested that we need love right from the beginning, which produces a “letting go”. Attention without an “ego” brings a different quality to our living. Mukesh’s presentations have been much appreciated and helpful to those seeking greater understanding of Krishnamurti’s teachings. We look forward to his next series of talks in January, 2021.

Self Study Meeting, November 1, 2020

Self Study Meeting

Sunday November 1, 2020

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Eleven of us joined this Sunday morning meeting via Zoom. Our focus was the study of the July readings from The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti. The entries were excerpts from K’s teachings on happiness and suffering: how to access the former and be with the later in a creative way. After a guided meditation exploring awareness and the split between the observer and the observed, followed by an interesting discussion of participants’ experience and understanding, the group entered into an exploration of the readings. Everyone had significant contributions to make to the dialogue and many expressed their appreciation for the opportunity to meet and discuss what Krishnamurti says about the aspects of self-knowledge emphasized in the readings.

Self Study Meeting, October 18, 2020

Self Study Meeting

Sunday, October 18, 2020

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We had sixteen people present for this meeting. The usual format of the group is to start with readings from The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti and to discuss what insights and questions have been awakened by the study of the readings assigned for that specific gathering. Usually participants have spent time at home with the material. In this case the readings were a selection taken from the July 9 – 29 entries in the text, which largely deal with being fully present with suffering and sorrow.

We began with a guided meditation focusing on being aware of the habit of thought to split into an “observer” and that which is observed, a central aspect of Krishnamurti’s teachings and the prescribed readings. The participants silently followed the meditation to a point and then some began to respond verbally to what had been presented. There was a lively engagement with ideas surrounding the duality created by the mind, as well as other aspects of suffering covered by K in the readings. The conversation spontaneously generated itself in such a way that material from the text was hardly mentioned. After two hours of dialogue it was hard to wind down the momentum and bring the session to an end. One could certainly say that the participants were involved and interested in the investigation.

Meditative Self-Inquiry with Mukesh Gupta, October 17, 2020

Meditative Self-Inquiry with Mukesh Gupta

Saturday, October 17, 2020

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There were twenty people in attendance, all included, for this presentation by Mukesh Gupta, who was himself in Varanasi, India. The title of the talk and dialogue was “What Prevents Us from Living Fully Now?” Mukesh began, after a short silent meditation, by pointing out that our life is made interesting or not so by the thinking mind and its intercession into our experience. Thought gets in the way of being fully present in the moment, but asking questions about its activity can invite the life force to become more available to us. Can we live without the baggage of the past, the “me” and its stories? This requires total attention to the past as it arises in us. Can we watch the whole process of thinking? It may then lose its strength to dull our experience and create conflict and struggle in our consciousness. This attention, which the Buddha also recommended, is timeless, open, and loving. It is the essential thing that is needed. “Can we live with this quality of attention?” Mukesh asked of us.

After a half-hour presentation, Mukesh opened the floor to questions and comments. A few perceptions were shared by group members and then the sharing turned to the issue of losing a loved one to disease and death, an actual fact in the lives of a couple of the participants.. Mukesh led the discussion by asking, “Can we be fully alive in this moment, no matter what the future may bring?” In fact, psychologically, is there any such thing as the future? Can we die to the past and the future and allow a greater Intelligence to respond to the challenges of life rather than trying to meet them with thought? Perhaps we will see that everything that happens is a blessing.

It was another quality session with Mukesh, with appreciative feedback from the participants.

The Urgency of Change Dialogue Group, October 13, 2020

The Urgency of Change Dialogue Group

Tuesday, October 13, 2020

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Five participants were able to attend this weekday meeting of the group which has now been functioning for nine months. We have been using the Krishnamurti book The Urgency of Change to focus our inquiry and to keep us close to K’s teachings as we explore our own consciousness. The meeting started with a reminder that there are at least two levels at which the dialogue can be taking place. The first is the level of intellectual understanding, which is often where people begin and which is probably necessary. K has pointed out that the teachings come alive in the moment to moment attention we give to the movements of thought that are creating our reality. This is a second level of engagement in dialogue wherein we are choicelessly aware of our processes of thought and feeling as we interact in relationship with each other. This awareness can open a space for insight and the experiencing of a state of being less identified with thought and more free to simply “be”, with access to the qualities of Beingness such as peace, joy, and love. The dialogue progressed within that context and seemed to be quite effortlessly grounded in Presence and cooperative exploration.

The chapter of “choice” for the meeting was “Morality”. K makes the distinction between social morality, usually motivated by fear, and authentic “virtue”, which is spontaneous compassion and love emerging from our understanding of ourselves and the patterns of the “self”. Questions such as “What is goodness?” and “What is the true flowering of the individual?” were also part of the dialogue. We touched briefly on the topic of the next chapter, “Suicide”, and will probably continue to explore it further in our next meeting. The participants in this meeting expressed an appreciation of the quality of attention that we had been able to bring forth, which in turn created enjoyment.

Self Study Meeting, October 7, 2020, On Meditation

Self Study Meeting

October 7, 2020

Zoom online               Present: 9

This was the make-up meeting for one that had to be postponed on October 4 due to technical difficulties. The topic was meditation in daily life, which was introduced by Mukesh’s presentation on Saturday and also through readings from The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti. Participants had read the December 22 – 31 selections from the book ahead of time and were well prepared to discuss what they had read. Nine people were present for the online gathering which began with a guided meditation looking at the mind’s capacity to be quiet and at rest when nothing is required from it. Participants reported an interesting variety of insights into the nature of thought’s habitual need to be in movement. This led seamlessly into an investigation of what had seemed most interesting and significant in the readings, with an exploration of various aspects of “meditation” as Krishnamurti approaches it. Time and timelessness, effortlessness, emptiness, self-understanding, the need for energy and “hard work” were some of the topics explored. Participants seemed to be very much present and interested in the ongoing inquiry. It was shared by some that Krishnamurti sometimes appears to contradict himself from one statement to the next and it was suggested that we need to look for ourselves and make our own discoveries without depending on any authority to give us answers. In fact the questions may be more important than any answers.

Meditative Self-Inquiry with Mukesh Gupta, October 3, 2020

Meditative Self-Inquiry with Mukesh Gupta

Saturday, October 3, 2020

Zoom online

 

This was the sixth of eight presentations by Mukesh on various aspects of Self-Inquiry, with an emphasis on J. Krishnamurti’s teachings on the same subject. In total there were 23 participants for the online session which was broadcast from Varanasi, India. This presentation was entitled “What is Meditation in Daily Living?”

Mukesh started the meeting with a ten minute guided meditation in which everything was allowed to be just as it is. He then spoke about the emphasis of traditional meditation on concentration and setting aside set times during the day. “Is this all there is to meditation?” he asked. Krishnamurti has a different approach, which stresses the understanding of the meditator, which brings freedom from the “meditator” or “self”. And what is understanding? Is it thinking and gathering knowledge about oneself? Krishnamurti’s approach is, rather, to watch ourselves as we are, to be “choicelessly aware”, which empties the mind of its content and supports the flowering of love and joy. Without love and compassion there is no meditation, and, as Krishnamurti said, “as long as there is a meditator there is no meditation.” Complete attention in daily life is meditation.

The meeting was then opened up to sharing from the group, which inspired a fuller exploration of the themes presented. Some of the issues discussed were the following:

– Dying to the past every day, every moment. The past is images and psychological memory.

– Non-resistance and surrender

– The power of attention to burn away attachments

– Being fully present with “what is” without conditions

– Awakening to our ignorance

– Dealing with memories by giving them full attention. If we do not identify with a memory it loses energy and fades away

 

Deep appreciation for the presentation was expressed by some of the participants, who reported understanding meditation in a more profound way than ever before.

The meeting ended with some silent sitting during which it was suggested we follow any thoughts from beginning to end.

 

 

Self Study Meeting, September 20, 2020

Self Study Meeting

Sunday, September 20, 2020

Zoom Online

Twelve of us showed up Sunday morning to explore the topic of the “quiet mind”. Participants had prepared for the meeting by reading and contemplating selections from The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti (October 20 – 31 entries). These daily meditations focus on the same subject and explore various issues and challenges involved in coming upon a stillness of mind in ourselves. The main point made by K is that such stillness naturally arises when we are interested in learning about ourselves and it is deepened by our self-observation, awareness, and attention.

The session began with a guided meditation looking at what is preventing the mind from being quiet as we sit in the present moment with nothing that needs to be done. The discussion was then opened to a sharing of what participants had found significant in the readings as well as other issues that had emerged for them. Some questions and challenges with the material were brought forward and points of view offered, sometimes producing opposing ideas about what Krishnamurti says and what he means. It was pointed out that what is most important is our own direct seeing and understanding, and also that we may not always agree with each other in particular interpretations. There was a good deal of sharing and inquiry and an apparent appreciation of the experience of coming together to share the investigation of Krishnamurti’s teachings and the understanding of ourselves.