A few years ago I had the good fortune of being ‘in relationship’ with a lovely woman who happened to be a practicing Naturopathic Physician. Her modality consisted of what is termed Classic Homeopathy. And as I understand it; the principal is to dilute the original organism that is apparently causing a particular disease by many thousands of times and administering it to the patient. The theory is, rather than fight the symptoms, we go in and shore up the immune system and administer the cure at the root. Anyway, just now I was reading some of an interview between Douglas Harding and Richard Lang. The word that popped up was ‘Homeopathy.’ By turning around and ‘looking from’ the so-called problem the solution becomes apparent. There isn’t anyone there to cause a problem! And it also reminded me of K’s famous quotation. “You are the world, and the world is you.” + + + + RL: This revolution in personal relationships must have an effect on one’s relationship with foreigners, animals and plants, inanimate objects – you name it. I’m thinking of all the conflict going on in the world today at all levels and how you might help. DH: I think that if we try to ameliorate, or abolish even, the dreadful things that are going on in the world – war and exploitation, starvation, all those things – if we try to do that at the level of the symptoms we’re not going to do very much. I wouldn’t say it’s useless, but it’s going to be insufficiently radical. We will not really make a contribution here until we tackle the root of the thing, and the root of the thing is to be found in each of our personal lives. If I’m suffering from this disease of confrontation in my relationship with you at this moment, what’s the use of trying to deal with the same problem of confrontation at other levels – national and international – confrontation between sexes, ethnic groups, religions, ideologies, power blocs, and so on? In other words, service to the world begins at home. Repeat: service to the world begins at home – if only because when you’ve found out who you are, you find you are the world. RL: How do you think it affects personal problems, psychological problems? Such as depression, anxiety, fear, loneliness? DH: There’s a sense in which it leaves those human things to carry on at their own level. At the centre of my life is this Awareness whose very nature I find is freedom – freedom not only from thinghood but from thoughts and feelings of all kinds. Certainly from problems of all kinds. As the source of those things, the origin of those difficult things, its business must be to leave them alone, free to be what they are. Who I really am doesn’t in itself change what I like to call my human nature. What it does, Richard, is to place it. This difficult and sometimes heart-rending stuff is not denied. In fact it is far more honestly reckoned with and cheerfully taken on board, from the state of freedom at the centre, than ever it was from that illusory person. Now there’s no necessity to deny and every reason to acknowledge these troubles in so far as they persist – loneliness and depression etc. It is part of the price of involvement in the world to have these feelings, some of which are agreeable, some of which are disagreeable, some of which are tragic. I can’t exist, can’t express at all, without this dualism out there. The dualism of good and evil, beauty and ugliness, black and white, etc. is the inescapable condition of expressing into the world from the place that is free of those dualities. So it’s not a case of being free from these things, in the sense that one abolishes them, but of being free from them in the sense that one locates them. They are no longer central. This not only removes one from them – without removing oneself from them: in the long run and when persisted in, it changes them. How exactly it does so remains to be seen. RL: Do you find in your own life that you have arrived at a sense of deep peace through this awareness? DH: Yes, I do indeed. It couldn’t be deeper. It couldn’t be more available, and it couldn’t be more natural or native to oneself. It’s been here all the while, and can never be achieved, or improved upon, or cultivated. It simply is here for the looking at. This peace is our very nature, not something we come across. It’s where we are, nearer than all else. We don’t come to it. we come from it. To find it is to allow ourselves to go back to the place we never left. Click here to read more
Weekend Event at the Centre
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauKrishnamurti Study Group Saturday, March 7, 2015 Five people gathered on another sunny day to continue with the study of the Krishnamurti book The First and Last Freedom. Again we were able to sit outside and enjoy the lovely setting, with the ocean and mountain views, the trees, and the sounds of birds singing. We started on Chapter 2 of the text, entitled “What Are We Seeking?” K addresses the issue of seeking happiness and whether or not it can actually be sought. Perhaps we are seeking some form of gratification or pleasure, some sense of permanence and security in an insecure world, but that is not the same as happiness. He makes the distinction between pleasure and joy and points out that we must understand ourselves, the “seeker” before we can have any real clarity about these matters. The reading of the first paragraphs of the chapter quickly stimulated participants to question and inquire into the subjects being spoken of and the rest of the session alternated between discussion and reading further short passages. There was a definite sense of the importance of what was being said and of understanding it for ourselves, as K says we must.
Eckhart Tolle Weekend
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauEckhart Tolle Retreat: “A New Consciousness for a New Earth” February 27 – March 1, 2015. This weekend retreat was focused around a retreat given by Eckhart in Assisi, Italy, in 2014. Five talks or guided meditation sessions with Eckhart were shown on DVD plus three guided meditations on CD with Kim Eng, Eckhart’s partner, on the inner body, the senses, and the pain body. During one of the talks Eckhart spoke in some depth of the teachings of St Francis of Assisi and drew parallels between his teachings and those of Eckhart. He also referred to the teachings of J. Krishnamurti and, again, mentioned the similarities with his own teachings. The five Assisi sessions covered a variety of topics, including the difference between thought and presence or being, putting attention on the inner body, form and the formless, essence identity vs. form identity, transcending egoic consciousness, stillness and transcendence, the path of effort vs. the path of relaxation and the integration of the two, the joy that is not dependent on circumstances or conditions, consciousness with and without content, spaciousness, and the essence of Zen (by which he claimed to have saved us twenty years in a Zen monastery). An additional DVD was shown entitled “Our Human Destiny” in which Eckhart spoke of the shift in human consciousness that we are a part of. The weekend also included some interesting group discussions facilitated by David, some chanting and movement guided by Ralph, two videos introducing Krishnamurti and his teachings, plenty of time for walks on the lovely property and for rest and quiet contemplation. Delicious meals were provided by Pearson College and Luis, the property manager, did everything possible to make the nine participants comfortable and to help the retreat flow smoothly. All attendees expressed great appreciation for the experience of the weekend and the value of the retreat.
Krishnamurti Study Group
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauKrishnamurti Study Group Saturday, February 21, 2015. Three participants met on a lovely sunny day at the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada in Metchosin. It was warm enough to sit outside and enjoy the spectacular view from the front of the main house, looking out over the Juan de Fuca Straight. The intention was to begin study of Chapter 2 in the book The First and Last Freedom. We began with a short silent period during which we sat with the question “Who was it that drove to the Centre and who is it that will engage in dialogue?” The idea was to see what images we may hold of ourselves as an entity and what happens when we are consciously aware of these images. This meditation spontaneously led into a discussion which lasted for the two hours set aside for the meeting, and when we did look briefly at the chapter material it was seen that we had been talking about very much the same subjects as K presents in the text. The conversation touched upon the creation of the self by thought, how the sense of a “doer” arises, how seeing what thought is doing can impact our experience, and various other interconnected issues. We will look again at Chapter 2 in the next session and presumably explore the text itself in more detail.
Happy “Chinese” New Year!
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauJ. Krishnamurti – First Public Question & Answer Meeting at Madras – January 1985 Krishnamurti: I wonder what we mean by a new year. New. Is it a fresh year, a year that is totally afresh, something that has never happened before? When we say something new, though we know there is nothing new under the sun, when we talk about a new and a happy year, is it really a new year for us? Or is it the same old pattern repeated over and over and over again? Same old rituals, same old traditions, same old habits, a continuity of what we have been doing, still are doing, and will do the same thing this year. (Read more) http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-text.php?tid=16…
To discover what is beyond time, thought must come to an end.
/in Event Summaries /by Ralph TillerToday I came across this quote by Krishnamurti that I would like to share with you: “It is the mind, it is thought, that creates time. Thought is time, and whatever thought projects must be of time; therefore, thought cannot possibly go beyond itself. To discover what is beyond time, thought must come to an end -and that is a most difficult thing because the ending of thought does not come about through discipline, through control, through denial or suppression. Thought ends only when we understand the whole process of thinking and, to understand thinking, there must be self-knowledge. Thought is the self, thought is the word which identifies itself as the ‘me’, and at whatever level, high or low, the self is placed, it is still within the field of thought. And the self is very complex; it is not at any one level but is made up of many thoughts, many entities, each in contradiction with the other. There must be a constant awareness of them all, an awareness in which there is no choice, no condemnation or comparison, that is, there must be the capacity to see things as they are without distorting or translating them. The moment we judge or translate what is seen, we distort it according to our background. To be is to be related, and it is only in the midst of relationship that we can spontaneously discover ourselves as we are. It is this very discovery of ourselves as we are, without any sense of condemnation or justification, that brings about a fundamental transformation in what we are -and that is the beginning of wisdom. J.Krishnamurti, Collected Works, Vol. VI,220, Choiceless Awareness
February UVic Spiritual Awakening Meetup
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauI’m pleased to report that the February UVic Spiritual Awakening Meetup went very well, with a growing number of returning members. 15 Awakeners attended, and the discussion was intelligent, lively and dynamic. The topic was “Exploring Empathy and Compassion”. We began with a video on self-compassion by Kristin Neff. Following that we looked at some definitions of empathy, compassion and a Buddhist term called “maitri”, which refers to “unconditional friendliness towards oneself”. Some thoughts about compassion, kindness and love were briefly explored. The notion of “self-compassion” then sparked a discussion about “self”, and the value of having compassion for something that might, ultimately, be a delusion. We explored whether self-compassion and mindfulness could be used to bring a spaciousness to the mechanism of thought that might help to disempower the ego and its self-perpetuating strategies (which exist in thought). While compassion and self-compassion are themes in many Buddhist teachings, many of the teachings also include notions such as “emptiness” and “no self”. It was interesting to explore how these different elements might be compatible. Some of the members (including myself) are passionate about K’s teachings, and the so conversation was very much grounded in his teachings, although it allowed for and acknowledged other perspectives as well. For instance, we discussed the limited value of adopting a practice and how simply relying on a new behaviour pattern may be limited and potentially counterproductive; others shared tools and practices that are helping them to relate to thought differently and better understand that they are not necessarily the “self” they had to come to believe themselves to be. We discussed awareness and inquired into the question of whether we can be something that appears in our awareness, which includes our identification as individuals. A Krishnamurti quote on compassion was shared towards the end, and as it turns out the essence of the content had already been significantly discussed. I’m certainly still learning as I go along, but the event seems to be going very smoothly at this point. Many people made a point of saying they would be returning, and I was surprised to receive hugs from a few folks who were very appreciative of the content and the good company. Here is the quote that was shared: “Compassion is not hard to come by when the heart is not filled with the cunning things of the mind. It is the mind with its demands and fears, its attachments and denials, its determinations and urges, that destroys love. And how difficult it is to be simple about all this! You don’t need philosophies and doctrines to be gentle and kind. The efficient and the powerful of the land will organize to feed and clothe the people, to provide them with shelter and medical care. This is inevitable with the rapid increase of production; it is the function of well-organized government and a balanced society. But organization does not give the generosity of the heart and hand. Generosity comes from quite a different source, a source beyond all measure. Ambition and envy destroy it as surely as fire burns. This source must be touched, but one must come to it empty-handed, without prayer, without sacrifice. Books cannot teach, nor can any guru lead to, this source. It cannot be reached through the cultivation of virtue, though virtue is necessary, nor through capacity and obedience. When the mind is serene, without any movement, it is there. Serenity is without motive, without the urge for the more.” -J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life
Church of Truth Event
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauChurch of Truth Event Sunday, February 8, 2015 Eleven people were present for the Sunday event at the Church of Truth in Victoria. We began with a short video clip of Krishnamurti speaking on the topic of “conditioning” and whether it is possible to be free of all conditioning. This was followed by a lively dialogue on the subject, including sharing of what conditioning means to each of us and how we are with it in our lives. After a tea break we watched a clip of Rupert Spira speaking about thought as a habit and answering a question about the persistence of thinking even though it has been seen that it produces conflict and limitation. We then engaged in further discussion, which brought up a number of disagreements and some energy of conflict and frustration. It was pointed out that the value of dialogue is often to be found in looking at our disturbances and reactions to what others are saying: we then see something about ourselves. The session concluded with another short clip, this time from Eckhart Tolle TV, in which he dealt with the same subject as Rupert but from a slightly different angle. He gave some practical tips about how to weaken the addiction to thought that seems to be so strong. It is interesting to see how these three teachers approach the fact of conditioning, and it seemed that participants were finding the explorations interesting and valuable. The next session in March will look at “Awareness”.
K Study Group
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauKrishnamurti Study Group Saturday, February 7, 2015 Five people gathered to study the text The First and Last Freedom by J. Krishnamurti. There was some reading from the book interspersed with group discussion and exploration of the meaning of what was read. The focus was largely on the process of self knowledge and some of the insights that seem to be central to understanding what it is to radically change in our consciousness. The futility and limitation of seeking to find an alternative to our present state of mind was looked into. Any effort by thought to go beyond itself is only more of the same confusion that thought brings into our lives. Can there be a seeing of the problem or question so that it falls away by itself rather than any answer being found? Some participants commented that the inquiry was powerful and beneficial and they look forward to the continued exploration of the book.
The Poisonous Snake: An Essential Krishnamurti Quote
/in Event Summaries /by David Bruneau“Any movement of any kind on the part of the mind only gives strength to the continuance of thought, with its envious, ambitious, acquisitive pursuits. When the mind is totally aware of this fact, as it is totally aware of a poisonous snake, then you will see that the movement of thought comes to an end. Then only is there a total revolution, not the continuance of the old in a different form. This state is not to be described; he who describes it is not aware of it.” J. Krishnamurti, Commentaries On Living Series 3 This is perhaps my favourite quote from Krishnamurti. It’s challenging, but I feel vital to anybody who seriously pursues spiritual inquiry. I say it’s necessary because once we really start to find a “path” that yields meaningful insights, we may find ourselves inadvertently wrapped up in thinking about the meaning and significance of these insights. We may get very excited to finally feel a deep connection to teachings that actually seem rooted in our own experience, and go to our minds for validation and elaboration. Nondual teachings continue to open my eyes in amazing ways, but I’m very aware that my mind loves to claim this all as experience and knowledge, and then integrate it into my old patterns of thinking, which have not always served me well (to say the least). This quote helps me come back to a more open awareness when I’ve let my mind start claiming “my” experiences and insights for itself and turning them into something they aren’t. Whether thought comes to an end may not be our concern, but I find this quote points to a deep truth about the human mind which helps me step back and relate to this whole mechanism of thinking in a less personal way. At the core of this quote, as with the whole of Krishnamurti’s message, there lies this essential question, “Why don’t you learn about yourself? About this mind that currently rules your very existence?”
A Homeopathic Remedy
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauA few years ago I had the good fortune of being ‘in relationship’ with a lovely woman who happened to be a practicing Naturopathic Physician. Her modality consisted of what is termed Classic Homeopathy. And as I understand it; the principal is to dilute the original organism that is apparently causing a particular disease by many thousands of times and administering it to the patient. The theory is, rather than fight the symptoms, we go in and shore up the immune system and administer the cure at the root. Anyway, just now I was reading some of an interview between Douglas Harding and Richard Lang. The word that popped up was ‘Homeopathy.’ By turning around and ‘looking from’ the so-called problem the solution becomes apparent. There isn’t anyone there to cause a problem! And it also reminded me of K’s famous quotation. “You are the world, and the world is you.” + + + + RL: This revolution in personal relationships must have an effect on one’s relationship with foreigners, animals and plants, inanimate objects – you name it. I’m thinking of all the conflict going on in the world today at all levels and how you might help. DH: I think that if we try to ameliorate, or abolish even, the dreadful things that are going on in the world – war and exploitation, starvation, all those things – if we try to do that at the level of the symptoms we’re not going to do very much. I wouldn’t say it’s useless, but it’s going to be insufficiently radical. We will not really make a contribution here until we tackle the root of the thing, and the root of the thing is to be found in each of our personal lives. If I’m suffering from this disease of confrontation in my relationship with you at this moment, what’s the use of trying to deal with the same problem of confrontation at other levels – national and international – confrontation between sexes, ethnic groups, religions, ideologies, power blocs, and so on? In other words, service to the world begins at home. Repeat: service to the world begins at home – if only because when you’ve found out who you are, you find you are the world. RL: How do you think it affects personal problems, psychological problems? Such as depression, anxiety, fear, loneliness? DH: There’s a sense in which it leaves those human things to carry on at their own level. At the centre of my life is this Awareness whose very nature I find is freedom – freedom not only from thinghood but from thoughts and feelings of all kinds. Certainly from problems of all kinds. As the source of those things, the origin of those difficult things, its business must be to leave them alone, free to be what they are. Who I really am doesn’t in itself change what I like to call my human nature. What it does, Richard, is to place it. This difficult and sometimes heart-rending stuff is not denied. In fact it is far more honestly reckoned with and cheerfully taken on board, from the state of freedom at the centre, than ever it was from that illusory person. Now there’s no necessity to deny and every reason to acknowledge these troubles in so far as they persist – loneliness and depression etc. It is part of the price of involvement in the world to have these feelings, some of which are agreeable, some of which are disagreeable, some of which are tragic. I can’t exist, can’t express at all, without this dualism out there. The dualism of good and evil, beauty and ugliness, black and white, etc. is the inescapable condition of expressing into the world from the place that is free of those dualities. So it’s not a case of being free from these things, in the sense that one abolishes them, but of being free from them in the sense that one locates them. They are no longer central. This not only removes one from them – without removing oneself from them: in the long run and when persisted in, it changes them. How exactly it does so remains to be seen. RL: Do you find in your own life that you have arrived at a sense of deep peace through this awareness? DH: Yes, I do indeed. It couldn’t be deeper. It couldn’t be more available, and it couldn’t be more natural or native to oneself. It’s been here all the while, and can never be achieved, or improved upon, or cultivated. It simply is here for the looking at. This peace is our very nature, not something we come across. It’s where we are, nearer than all else. We don’t come to it. we come from it. To find it is to allow ourselves to go back to the place we never left. Click here to read more