Self-Inquiry Meeting
On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 16, 2025
On Wednesday nine participants gathered for a KECC sponsored dialogue at the Esquimalt Gorge Park Pavilion in Victoria.
After a period of silence, it was suggested that dialogue might be a journey in the unknown as a field of shared listening instead of a conversation between separate identities governed by what we already know. The group listened to this comment. From this the group explored interest and passion questioning whether interests were particular and whether passion might be something different. Perhaps some kind of energy that doesn’t have an object.
The following Krishnamurti quote was read from the Book of Life (April 27):
A passionate mind is inquiring
Obviously there must be passion, and the question is how to revive that passion. Do not let us misunderstand each other. I mean passion in every sense, not merely sexual passion which is a very small thing. And most of us are satisfied with that because every other passion has been destroyed—in the office, in the factory, through following a certain job, routine, learning techniques—so there is no passion left; there is no creative sense of urgency and release. Therefore sex becomes important to us, and there we get lost in petty passion which becomes an enormous problem to the narrow, virtuous mind, or else it soon becomes a habit and dies. I am using the word passion as a total thing. A passionate man who feels strongly is not satisfied merely with some little job—whether it be the job of a prime minister, or of a cook, or what you will. A mind that is passionate is inquiring, searching, looking, asking, demanding, not merely trying to find for its discontent some object in which it can fulfill itself and go to sleep. A passionate mind is groping, seeking, breaking through, not accepting any tradition; it is not a decided mind, not a mind that has arrived, but it is a young mind that is ever arriving.
The group explored passion as energy and looked for what might limit this passion. Was the self ( what “I know” about “myself”) a kind of lack of energy and enthusiasm for life.
The following excerpt from the Book of Life was read to continue exploration of this topic (April 28):
Now, how is such a mind to come into being? It must happen. Obviously, a petty mind cannot work at it. A petty mind trying to become passionate will merely reduce everything to its own pettiness. It must happen, and it can only happen when the mind sees its own pettiness and yet does not try to do anything about it.
The group explored what kind of action Krishnamurti was getting at here. What does it mean to do nothing about a reaction? What is faced by not going along with the current of what the brain says is the right image to produce to manage a situation.
Could passion be something beyond our comprehension?
At the end of the dialogue it was suggested that perhaps this was all in the field of self-consciousness or limitation and was it possible for the group to explore love or presence or something which was not this limited offering from thought? Could this be another trap of thought? It was suggested that the group might consider this next time.
Henry Fischer
Self-Inquiry with Eric Hassett, May 21, 2025
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On-site Dialogue with Eric Hassett
May 21, 2025
On Wednesday, May 21st, from 4:30pm to 6pm, a dialogue with five participants and myself took place in a meeting room at Esquimalt Gorge Park, Victoria. Large windows offered views of the exquisite garden landscape outside.
A Krishnamurti quote from The Book of Life (A Timeless State, Oct. 2nd) was read:
The group proceeded to discuss awareness, the observer and the observed, psychological time, conditioning, and the ending of the ‘me’. There seemed to be genuine ‘looking’ taking place, along with self-observation.
Eric
Self-Inquiry with Eric Hassett, May 18, 2025
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On-site Dialogue with Eric Hassett
May 18, 2025
On Sunday, May 18th, from 3pm to 4:30pm, a dialogue with ten participants and myself took place on the lush green grass outside the Main House near the swimming pool. It was a beautiful day with plenty of sunshine.
A Krishnamurti quote from the KECC handout titled “Self-Inquiry Meetings” was read:
It was suggested that the dialogue is an opportunity not just for intellectual discussion but also to ‘look’ at the actuality of our daily lives to which Krishnamurti pointed and to ‘do’ what he urged us to do when he said “Do it, sirs!” because such action, when taken, should, as the above quote says, “…release, not through any action of will, a certain energy that is awake all the time, which is beyond thought.”
In connection with this possibility, the group proceeded to discuss awareness, the observer and the observed, psychological time, conditioning, and the ending of the ‘me’. By and large, there seemed to be genuine ‘looking’ taking place, along with self-observation. As the saying goes, “people were truly listening to people truly speaking.”
Eric
Self-Inquiry with James Tousignant, May 7, 2025
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On-site Dialogue with James Tousignant
May 7, 2025
The meeting began with the Book of Life reading from May 7, 2025 titled, “One Must Have Great Feeling.” We quickly moved into an exploration of the Krishnamurti’s use of the word “feeling” as his statement:
This would have been interesting in and of itself, however the reading on the opposite page, described:
And feelings, thoughts, etc dissipate the energy needed to observe… to inquire. A seeming contradiction on the level of the ordinary meaning of the word is where we began. As we moved through our inquiry it became clear that an experience of ‘great feeling’, (brief moments where aliveness and clarity arise) and ‘observation without thought’ (where in the moment of observing our minds are stilled) provided the ground to embrace the apparent contradiction and move into a more expansive understanding of ‘feeling’.
James
Self-Inquiry with James Tousignant, May 4, 2025
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On-site Dialogue with James Tousignant
May 4, 2025
On a beautiful Sunday afternoon, 8 participants met on the lawn by the outdoor pool to explore “Intellect vs. Intelligence” from Krishnamurti’s The Book of Life.
The participants explored Krishnamurti’s perspective through sharing their personal experiences, beliefs and understanding of the two concepts. Interesting avenues of exploration came about through a question on Emotional Intelligence, and another on how intelligence arises from both emotions and thoughts coming into balance and harmony. A deepening understanding became available when one participant described an image of thoughts and emotions as existing on one plane of experience, and the need for one to rise above that level to a place where both could be seen and held in a more spacious, harmonious wholeness.
James
Self-Inquiry with Henry Fischer, April 30, 2025
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On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 30, 2025
On Wednesday six participants gathered for a KECC sponsored dialogue at the Esquimalt Gorge Park Pavilion in Victoria.
After a period of silence, it was suggested that dialogue may not be about our experience or our expertise but might require one to look at oneself as one has never looked before— not as an idea but as a fact (actuality).
It was suggested that absolutely everything we know or experience might not be love whatsoever. It may be only a memory already conditioned and judged by its utility to this self which is often describes as “me”. Is there a “me”? Why would one ask such a question like this? Does it have something to do with suffering and conflict? Surely in suffering and conflict me is always there. But the suffering is desired to end, and one doesn’t consider instead that perhaps the me could end. Is the “me” the root of this suffering? Does one need this “me” even though of course it continues to produce images and tell a story of what it thinks? Could this bring one to the precipice of being a true revolutionary…
The following Krishnamurti quote is a shortened excerpt from the August 6 entry in Book of Life by J. Krishnamurti:
As the dialogue began to conclude the group asked questions about fear and attachment. There was a suggestion to bring this forward in May when the dialogues continues with a new facilitator.
Henry Fischer
Self-Inquiry with Henry Fischer, April 27, 2025
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On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 27, 2025
On Sunday fourteen participants gathered for a KECC dialogue at Swanwick.
After a period of silence, newcomers were introduced to dialogue as an all inclusive unfolding process that includes thoughts, emotions, feelings, perception, the senses and the subject which is being explored. The invitation is to see if observation naturally connects us and engages us in a passionate exploration of the unknown rather than an affirmation of what we already know.
The following Krishnamurti quote was read from the Book of Life (May 22). This is only an excerpt however the entire entry was read at the dialogue:
The facilitator asked if it was possible to see anything afresh without the past interfering. The group quickly challenged this pointing out that it may be an ideal but the actuality is that thought is limited and conditioned. Perhaps there was something fresh in considering what is normally taken as real to instead be the unfolding of thought. In this way, the past is new in that it is freshly occurring.
There were also questions about whether we are actually seeing or if instead we are living inside a kind of projection of memory which we take to be ourselves.
Is freedom possible as an actuality or is it just a projected ideal? What does it mean to see the truth of conditioning and yet not to be defined or limited by it? Is there a freedom from the known which is not idealized or imagined?
The group also looked at fear and whether fear was also a description, a movement away from what is.
Henry Fischer
Self-Inquiry with Henry Fischer, April 23, 2025
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On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 23, 2025
On Wednesday seven participants gathered for a KECC sponsored dialogue at the Esquimalt Gorge Park Pavilion in Victoria.
After a period of silence, the group was asked to bring forth any “burning” questions, life experiences or readings from Krishnamurti which the group could examine together. It was asked to further define “what is burning” but the definition was left with the group to determine this meaning. It began with a question about innocence and images (“the idea of ourselves or each other”) to see if innocence and images are mutually exclusive.
Quite appropriately, the group described that they do, in fact, have images of themselves and one another, and that these images sometimes seem to come from a kind of fear or defensiveness, but other times seem to offer value and insight into the nature of another.
Although these images seem to offer insight into the nature of another person, the actuality seems quite the opposite, as these images come from the one who is seeing and not from what is seen? Therefore if these images don’t have an accuracy about what is out there what does that say about the image-maker? Does the image-maker use these images to avoid something? If so what is being avoided? It was suggested that there might be something which doesn’t have a label at all but is somewhat exciting and unsettling, a kind of unknown and unresolved energetic state which is avoided. In lieu of closing comments and because a reading wasn’t offered to begin the inquiry, instead, a reading was brought in to address the kind of unresolved nature beneath images which may not have an object or “known” experience or even permanent state to it.
The following is an excerpt from The Book of Life, J. Krishnamurti (July 5):
Henry Fischer
Self-Inquiry with Henry Fischer, April 20, 2025
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On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 20, 2025
On Sunday six participants gathered for a KECC dialogue at Swanwick.
After a period of silence, newcomers were introduced to dialogue as an exploration into what we don’t know rather than an intellectual conversation between individuals.
The following Krishnamurti quote was read from the Book of Life (April 20) with the most essential excerpts being included here to highlight what the group considered:
The group began by looking at what Krishnamurti meant by “the shadow is not the real” by considering the sentence before it which pointed to “the known” as this shadow. But what qualities could then be unknown which might relate to some sense of this word passion? The group picked up on several qualities perhaps playfulness, being surprised, having some sense of freedom, going beyond the self or identity. There seemed to be an energy that was hard to put into the words but the group became alive with enthusiasm as if it were encountering something new that didn’t fit into the known but which seemed very active in life itself. Perhaps as life itself.
The group continued to explore this energy as passion and whether Krishnamurti was pointing to a kind of potential energy which is cut off once knowledge is believed to be its source. The group also considered the way images themselves might limit this potential by wrongfully fixing a kind of openness to all possibility into a limited frame and then living from that image.
Henry Fischer
Self-Inquiry with Henry Fischer, April 16, 2025
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On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 16, 2025
On Wednesday nine participants gathered for a KECC sponsored dialogue at the Esquimalt Gorge Park Pavilion in Victoria.
After a period of silence, it was suggested that dialogue might be a journey in the unknown as a field of shared listening instead of a conversation between separate identities governed by what we already know. The group listened to this comment. From this the group explored interest and passion questioning whether interests were particular and whether passion might be something different. Perhaps some kind of energy that doesn’t have an object.
The following Krishnamurti quote was read from the Book of Life (April 27):
The group explored passion as energy and looked for what might limit this passion. Was the self ( what “I know” about “myself”) a kind of lack of energy and enthusiasm for life.
The following excerpt from the Book of Life was read to continue exploration of this topic (April 28):
The group explored what kind of action Krishnamurti was getting at here. What does it mean to do nothing about a reaction? What is faced by not going along with the current of what the brain says is the right image to produce to manage a situation.
Could passion be something beyond our comprehension?
At the end of the dialogue it was suggested that perhaps this was all in the field of self-consciousness or limitation and was it possible for the group to explore love or presence or something which was not this limited offering from thought? Could this be another trap of thought? It was suggested that the group might consider this next time.
Henry Fischer
Self-Inquiry with Henry Fischer, April 13, 2025
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On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 13, 2025
After a brief period of silence the following Krishnamurti extract from the Book Of Life (June 6) entry was read aloud. Ten participants were present at this dialogue into the truth of our existence:
The facilitator discussed the importance of exploring together not merely as an intellectual exercise but to uncover what is operating in human consciousness as we explore any topics we bring forward.
The group looked at contradictions in thought itself and it was suggested that we do not see the contraction perhaps because we are already existing as the contraction. From this the group mainly focused on sense-making and how there appears to be a kind of organization or analysis of what is happening as a kind of thought-projection. Might we experiment to see if it is possible to simply be with being rather than relating in this fragmented way? Other themes like psychological security, trust, resistance to dissolving a sense of self were touched on throughout the dialogue.
Is the appearance of sense-making itself an indication we have lost connection with energy in its highest form. Is it so? Do we see the limitation of thought? Is it almost like thought traces an outline of what we think we are but do we see that this outline doesn’t include the whole of life? There was a sense of looking for something permanent and yet a realization (at least at the intellectual level) that there seems to be nothing permanent in the movement of life.
Henry Fischer