Sunday Events

  Inquiry Sunday Sunday, March 22, 2015.              Five people gathered for the Sunday event held in the meditation room.   The morning session started with a video of Rupert Spira entitled The Transparency of Things:  Contemplating the Nature of Experience.   In this interview he guides us through various explorations of our actual experience to show that our assumptions of separateness are not founded in reality.  As the sense of being a separate entity is the basis of our psychological suffering, Rupert’s way of questioning and looking at our experience can be a radical “solution” to our human problems.  He spoke about the tendency to accept our contracted state as a natural one and to then see any relaxing as a kind of effort.  In fact no effort is required:  we only need to see that we are holding on.  The discussion that followed was very relevant to the participants and seemed to create a space for some direct insight.  Facing discomfort was an issue discussed in some depth.  An attitude of “not knowing”, as opposed to thinking we already know, allowed an openness in which fresh insight could take place in the context of a group inquiry and dialogue could be a “meditation”.

Second Sunday Event

  Inquiry Sunday Afternoon Event         In the afternoon a Krishnamurtij video was shown from the Evelyn Blau series Beyond Myth and Tradition.  The topic was “Choiceless Awareness”, and K spoke of the quality of attention needed for a significant transformation to take place in the human psyche.  Afterwards participants questioned whether K is distinguishing between awareness and attention or if they are for him essentially the same. There was discussion of what attention and awareness actually are for us and how we can become aware of our deeper conditioning and psychological patterns.

Weekend Events at the Centre

  Krishnamurti Study Group Saturday, March 21, 2015             The warm and sunny weather allowed us to sit outside for the K study meeting, attended by four people seriously interested in looking at ourselves and possibly gaining significant insight into our own minds and hearts.  We used the last part of Chapter 2 in The First and Last Freedom as a platform for our exploration and inquiry.  K speaks of the necessity of taking time to study ourselves and of staying with the sometimes difficult challenge of facing the reality of ourselves without distraction and escape.  The group discussion focused on a few topics of importance for the participants, one of which was the compulsive need to seek and to avoid simply being in the present moment.  This was seen as a crucial issue in the understanding of our consciousness.

Dialogue Group Meeting

    Dialogue Group Meeting Sunday, March 15, 2015        Five people met at the Swanwick Centre for an afternoon of unstructured dialoguing.  Lynn was not able to facilitate due to a cold, so by default I, David, became the leaderless leader.  On the drive to the Centre I had been thinking about my purpose in attending these meetings and how I can best achieve that purpose.  It seemed immediately clear that the essence of it all for me is to “practice” being fully present and attentive to whatever is arising in my life and likewise in the meetings.  This can have many residual benefits and offshoots or aspects to it.  The question seemed to perhaps be an interesting one for the group as a whole, especially as there was a new member who might gain a good sense of what we are about as individuals and as a group.  Group members shared their own reasons for participation and their valuing of the group.  Appreciation was expressed for the quality of listening usually present, the emphasis given to questioning rather than to knowledge, and the opportunity to observe oneself in interaction with others.  The conversation moved into the subject of choice and “doership”, a fertile ground for inquiry and exploration.  Do we choose what to do or is there more a movement that happens from a larger field of intelligence – or perhaps conditioning?  The discussion turned to the problem of suffering and the urge to experience unity or oneness.  One participant mentioned that often the “what?” question is asked but it seems rarely the “why?”  Is there a plan or meaning to life and the universe?  Why are we here?  Why is life here?   I’m sorry to report that no conclusive answer was found.  It was mentioned that Krishnamurti said that if we see that the observer and the observed are one and the division collapses, then we will never need to ask what is the meaning of life.  Krishnamurti’s teachings were also referred to in relation to other points of discussion. The last part of the meeting was taken up largely considering the impact of beliefs on the stage of politics and international relations.  Hopefully an interesting and useful afternoon for all.

Weekend Event at the Centre

  Krishnamurti Study Group Saturday, March 7, 2015     Five people gathered on another sunny day to continue with the study of the Krishnamurti book The First and Last Freedom. Again we were able to sit outside and enjoy the lovely setting, with the ocean and mountain views, the trees, and the sounds of birds singing. We started on Chapter 2 of the text, entitled “What Are We Seeking?” K addresses the issue of seeking happiness and whether or not it can actually be sought. Perhaps we are seeking some form of gratification or pleasure, some sense of permanence and security in an insecure world, but that is not the same as happiness. He makes the distinction between pleasure and joy and points out that we must understand ourselves, the “seeker” before we can have any real clarity about these matters. The reading of the first paragraphs of the chapter quickly stimulated participants to question and inquire into the subjects being spoken of and the rest of the session alternated between discussion and reading further short passages. There was a definite sense of the importance of what was being said and of understanding it for ourselves, as K says we must.

Victoria Video and Dialogue Meeting

  Victoria Video and Dialogue Sunday, March 8, 2015         On a beautiful Sunday afternoon eight participants showed up for a session held at the Church of Truth in Victoria. These meetings are structured around material from the Krishnamurti book Freedom From the Known and this month we were looking at the topic of “awareness”, a central one in chapter 3 of the text. We watched a short video clip of K speaking on “choiceless awareness” at Saanen in the 1980’s, then read a handout from the book. A very lively discussion followed before a tea break, much of it focused on the subject of attention and what it means to look at ourselves totally. After the break we watched a video clip of Rupert Spira in which he suggested that when we are in the grips of an unpleasant feeling or emotion – and presumably also a pleasant one – we could become more interested in the awareness which knows the experience than in the feeling itself. We can pay attention not just to the feeling but to that which knows it and the feeling will naturally die from lack of energetic input. In the dialogue that followed some participants thought that what Rupert was pointing to was complementary to what K says whereas others felt they were very different. There may have been an issue of only partial information as Rupert’s approach goes on in other presentations a step or two further than he did in this short video, but the discussion showed how we are very different in the way we see and understand things. The thinking mind seems to be inherently fragmentary when it attempts to conceive of reality. The session ended with another video clip wherein Eckhart Tolle answered a question about being aware of a feeling and of the sense of presence or awareness itself at the same time. His words may or may not have resolved the differences in people’s views but rather than talk further at that point the session closed with a short period of silence. Perhaps the main purpose of these meetings is to observe ourselves in interaction with others, so there was plenty of opportunity for such self observation throughout the afternoon.

Eckhart Tolle Weekend

  Eckhart Tolle Retreat: “A New Consciousness for a New Earth” February 27 – March 1, 2015.   This weekend retreat was focused around a retreat given by Eckhart in Assisi, Italy, in 2014. Five talks or guided meditation sessions with Eckhart were shown on DVD plus three guided meditations on CD with Kim Eng, Eckhart’s partner, on the inner body, the senses, and the pain body. During one of the talks Eckhart spoke in some depth of the teachings of St Francis of Assisi and drew parallels between his teachings and those of Eckhart. He also referred to the teachings of J. Krishnamurti and, again, mentioned the similarities with his own teachings. The five Assisi sessions covered a variety of topics, including the difference between thought and presence or being, putting attention on the inner body, form and the formless, essence identity vs. form identity, transcending egoic consciousness, stillness and transcendence, the path of effort vs. the path of relaxation and the integration of the two, the joy that is not dependent on circumstances or conditions, consciousness with and without content, spaciousness, and the essence of Zen (by which he claimed to have saved us twenty years in a Zen monastery). An additional DVD was shown entitled “Our Human Destiny” in which Eckhart spoke of the shift in human consciousness that we are a part of. The weekend also included some interesting group discussions facilitated by David, some chanting and movement guided by Ralph, two videos introducing Krishnamurti and his teachings, plenty of time for walks on the lovely property and for rest and quiet contemplation. Delicious meals were provided by Pearson College and Luis, the property manager, did everything possible to make the nine participants comfortable and to help the retreat flow smoothly. All attendees expressed great appreciation for the experience of the weekend and the value of the retreat.

Krishnamurti Study Group

  Krishnamurti Study Group Saturday, February 21, 2015.        Three participants met on a lovely sunny day at the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada in Metchosin. It was warm enough to sit outside and enjoy the spectacular view from the front of the main house, looking out over the Juan de Fuca Straight. The intention was to begin study of Chapter 2 in the book The First and Last Freedom. We began with a short silent period during which we sat with the question “Who was it that drove to the Centre and who is it that will engage in dialogue?” The idea was to see what images we may hold of ourselves as an entity and what happens when we are consciously aware of these images. This meditation spontaneously led into a discussion which lasted for the two hours set aside for the meeting, and when we did look briefly at the chapter material it was seen that we had been talking about very much the same subjects as K presents in the text. The conversation touched upon the creation of the self by thought, how the sense of a “doer” arises, how seeing what thought is doing can impact our experience, and various other interconnected issues. We will look again at Chapter 2 in the next session and presumably explore the text itself in more detail.

Happy “Chinese” New Year!

J. Krishnamurti – First Public Question & Answer Meeting at Madras – January 1985 Krishnamurti: I wonder what we mean by a new year. New. Is it a fresh year, a year that is totally afresh, something that has never happened before? When we say something new, though we know there is nothing new under the sun, when we talk about a new and a happy year, is it really a new year for us? Or is it the same old pattern repeated over and over and over again? Same old rituals, same old traditions, same old habits, a continuity of what we have been doing, still are doing, and will do the same thing this year. (Read more) http://www.jkrishnamurti.org/krishnamurti-teachings/view-text.php?tid=16…

To discover what is beyond time, thought must come to an end.

  Today I came across this quote by Krishnamurti that I would like to share with you:     “It is the mind, it is thought, that creates time. Thought is time, and whatever thought projects must be of time; therefore, thought cannot possibly go beyond itself. To discover what is beyond time, thought must come to an end -and that is a most difficult thing because the ending of thought does not come about through discipline, through control, through denial or suppression. Thought ends only when we understand the whole process of thinking and, to understand thinking, there must be self-knowledge. Thought is the self, thought is the word which identifies itself as the ‘me’, and at whatever level, high or low, the self is placed, it is still within the field of thought. And the self is very complex; it is not at any one level but is made up of many thoughts, many entities, each in contradiction with the other. There must be a constant awareness of them all, an awareness in which there is no choice, no condemnation or comparison, that is, there must be the capacity to see things as they are without distorting or translating them. The moment we judge or translate what is seen, we distort it according to our background. To be is to be related, and it is only in the midst of relationship that we can spontaneously discover ourselves as we are. It is this very discovery of ourselves as we are, without any sense of condemnation or justification, that brings about a fundamental transformation in what we are -and that is the beginning of wisdom. J.Krishnamurti, Collected Works, Vol. VI,220, Choiceless Awareness