Meditative Dialogue with Mukesh Gupta, June 4, 2025

Reflections from the Meditative Dialogue on June 4, 2025

This meditative dialogue unfolded as a shared space of self-inquiry rooted in silence, presence, and love. Participants gathered not to exchange ideas or knowledge, but to explore the nature of the self, thought, and awareness through a quality of deep listening and stillness.
The session began with introductions, but quickly moved into a shared silence—a reminder that the most meaningful communication often begins beyond words. Participants reflected that true presence emerges when there is no agenda, just an awareness of breath, sound, sensation, and space.

Mukesh emphasized that self-inquiry is not intellectual analysis but a deep shared seeing. Thought cannot understand thought—just as one cloud cannot analyze another. Instead, the group was invited to observe thought gently, without judgment, allowing insight to arise naturally. Several participants explored the subtle creation of the “I” image, which constantly shifts and seeks validation. This ego-structure, often sustained by memory and reactivity, was examined as a source of inner conflict and suffering. Yet, through simple observation, its grip could be loosened—revealing a spaciousness where freedom resides.

A key insight emerged: there is nothing to do, no need to fix or improve the self. When the idea of “doing” is dropped, what remains is presence. In this space, reactions soften, and life unfolds naturally. The mantra became: “Just let go.”

We also reflected that emotions like anger and fear may emerge in our daily living and can be welcomed as natural responses rather than obstacles. The dialogue acknowledged the need to sometimes act firmly in society without losing inner clarity.

The dialogue concluded in silence, with a call to “let the heart be open.” What lingered was not answers, but a felt sense of presence. In letting go of control, in ceasing to chase understanding, one touches the essence of being.

-Mukesh Gupta

Meditative Dialogue with Mukesh Gupta, June 1, 2025

Reflections from the Meditative Dialogue on June 1, 2025

The dialogue began with an invitation to enter a shared space of meditative self-inquiry, not from knowledge or intellect, but from presence, silence, and love. This set the tone for a gathering rooted in listening, mutual affection, and care.

Participants reflected on the nature of expression and the fear that often accompanies speaking. True communication, it was felt, comes not from compulsion or performance but from a stillness within. Sometimes, the most profound contribution is silence itself.

A key insight emerged around aspiration—that our natural longing for wholeness doesn’t need to be fabricated. Trusting the intelligence already moving within us brings a gentle, surrendering quality. Doing nothing was redefined—not as passivity, but as spacious openness where awareness itself can act. As Krishnamurti noted, “freedom is at the beginning,” not at the end of effort.

Deeper themes of shame and suffering were touched upon. One participant observed that healing arises not by battling thoughts, but by simply seeing them clearly. The seeing of the very first thought that triggers an emotional loop is transformative. Many echoed the insight that thought creates the “thinker,” and thus conflict arises from trying to control thought. In awareness, this division collapses.

Throughout the dialogue, curiosity and insight were seen as essential qualities. A physics metaphor likening awareness to the energy that frees an electron offered a compelling image: insight energizes the mind to move freely.

There was an invitation to welcome the gaps between thoughts—to taste the stillness that is often feared or ignored. Far from emptiness, this psychological “nothingness” revealed itself as a doorway to freedom and clarity. The group collectively realized that freedom doesn’t lie in solving all problems, but in stepping outside the field of thought, even momentarily.

The dialogue ended with a gentle reminder: awareness is an effortless state which is always ready to flower, buried beneath the movement of thought. When even a small gap appears, clarity and love naturally emerge. The tone shifted from complexity to simplicity, from effort to effortless seeing. What remained was not knowledge, but a quiet joy in being.

-Mukesh Gupta

Self-Inquiry with Eric Hassett, May 25, 2025

Self-Inquiry Meeting
On-site Dialogue with Eric Hassett
May 25, 2025

On Sunday, May 25th, from 3pm to 4:30pm, a dialogue with four participants and myself took place on the lush green grass outside the Main House near the swimming pool. It was a beautiful day with plenty of sunshine.

A Krishnamurti quote from The Book of Life (Direct Observation, Feb. 15th) was read:

Why do ideas take root in our minds? Why do not facts become all-important—not ideas? Why do theories, ideas, become so significant rather than the fact? Is it that we cannot understand the fact, or have not the capacity, or are afraid of facing the fact? Therefore, ideas, speculations, theories are a means of escaping away from the fact…

You may run away, you may do all kinds of things; the facts are there—the fact that one is angry, the fact that one is ambitious, the fact that one is sexual, a dozen things. You may suppress them, you may transmute them, which is another form of suppression; you may control them, but they are all suppressed, controlled, disciplined with ideas… Do not ideas waste our energy? Do not ideas dull the mind? You may be clever in speculation, in quotations; but it is obviously a dull mind which quotes, that has read a lot and quotes.

… You remove the conflict of the opposite at one stroke if you live with the fact and therefore liberate the energy to face the fact. For most of us, contradiction is an extraordinary field in which the mind is caught. I want to do this, and I do something entirely different; but if I face the fact of wanting to do this, there is no contradiction; and therefore, at one stroke I abolish altogether all sense of the opposite, and my mind then is completely concerned with what is, and with
the understanding of what is.

The group proceeded to discuss awareness, the observer and the observed, psychological time, conditioning, and the ending of the ‘me’. There seemed to be genuine ‘looking’ taking place, along with self-observation.

Eric

Self-Inquiry with Eric Hassett, May 21, 2025

Self-Inquiry Meeting
On-site Dialogue with Eric Hassett
May 21, 2025

On Wednesday, May 21st, from 4:30pm to 6pm, a dialogue with five participants and myself took place in a meeting room at Esquimalt Gorge Park, Victoria. Large windows offered views of the exquisite garden landscape outside.

A Krishnamurti quote from The Book of Life (A Timeless State, Oct. 2nd) was read:

When we are talking about time, we do not mean chronological time, time by the watch. That time exists, must exist. If you want to catch a bus, if you want to get to a train or meet an appointment tomorrow, you must have chronological time. But is there a tomorrow, psychologically, which is the time of the mind? Is there psychologically tomorrow, actually? Or is the tomorrow created by thought because thought sees the impossibility of change, directly, immediately, and invents this process of gradualness? I see for myself, as a human being, that it is terribly important to bring about a radical revolution in my way of life, thinking, feeling, and in my actions, and I say to myself, “I’ll take time over it; I’ll be different tomorrow, or in a month’s time.” That is the time we are talking about: the psychological structure of time, of tomorrow, or the future, and in that time we live. Time is the past, the present, and the future, not by the watch. I was, yesterday; yesterday operates through today and creates the future. That’s a fairly simple thing. I had an experience a year ago that left an imprint on my mind, and the present I translate according to that experience, knowledge, tradition, conditioning, and I create the tomorrow. I’m caught in this circle. This is what we call living; this is what we call time.

Thought, which is you, with all its memories, conditioning, ideas, hopes, despair, the utter loneliness of existence—all that is this time…And to understand a timeless state, when time has come to a stop, one must inquire whether the mind can be free totally of all experience, which is of time.

The group proceeded to discuss awareness, the observer and the observed, psychological time, conditioning, and the ending of the ‘me’. There seemed to be genuine ‘looking’ taking place, along with self-observation.

Eric

Self-Inquiry with Eric Hassett, May 18, 2025

Self-Inquiry Meeting
On-site Dialogue with Eric Hassett
May 18, 2025

On Sunday, May 18th, from 3pm to 4:30pm, a dialogue with ten participants and myself took place on the lush green grass outside the Main House near the swimming pool. It was a beautiful day with plenty of sunshine.

A Krishnamurti quote from the KECC handout titled “Self-Inquiry Meetings” was read:

I think before we begin it should be made clear what we mean by discussion.
To me it is a process of discovery through exposing oneself to the fact. That is, in
discussion I discover myself, the habit of my thought, the way I proceed to think,
my reactions, the way I reason, not only intellectually but inwardly… I feel that if
we could be serious for an hour or so and really fathom, delve into ourselves as
much as we can, we should be able to release, not through any action of will, a
certain sense of energy that is awake all the time, which is beyond thought.”

It was suggested that the dialogue is an opportunity not just for intellectual discussion but also to ‘look’ at the actuality of our daily lives to which Krishnamurti pointed and to ‘do’ what he urged us to do when he said “Do it, sirs!” because such action, when taken, should, as the above quote says, “…release, not through any action of will, a certain energy that is awake all the time, which is beyond thought.”

In connection with this possibility, the group proceeded to discuss awareness, the observer and the observed, psychological time, conditioning, and the ending of the ‘me’. By and large, there seemed to be genuine ‘looking’ taking place, along with self-observation. As the saying goes, “people were truly listening to people truly speaking.”

Eric

Self-Inquiry with James Tousignant, May 7, 2025

Self-Inquiry Meeting
On-site Dialogue with James Tousignant
May 7, 2025

The meeting began with the Book of Life reading from May 7, 2025 titled, “One Must Have Great Feeling.” We quickly moved into an exploration of the Krishnamurti’s use of the word “feeling” as his statement:

because it is only the feelings that make the mind highly sensitive

This would have been interesting in and of itself, however the reading on the opposite page, described:

there is no feeling without thought

And feelings, thoughts, etc dissipate the energy needed to observe… to inquire. A seeming contradiction on the level of the ordinary meaning of the word is where we began. As we moved through our inquiry it became clear that an experience of ‘great feeling’, (brief moments where aliveness and clarity arise) and ‘observation without thought’ (where in the moment of observing our minds are stilled) provided the ground to embrace the apparent contradiction and move into a more expansive understanding of ‘feeling’.

James

Self-Inquiry with James Tousignant, May 4, 2025

Self-Inquiry Meeting
On-site Dialogue with James Tousignant
May 4, 2025

On a beautiful Sunday afternoon, 8 participants met on the lawn by the outdoor pool to explore “Intellect vs. Intelligence” from Krishnamurti’s The Book of Life.

The participants explored Krishnamurti’s perspective through sharing their personal experiences, beliefs and understanding of the two concepts. Interesting avenues of exploration came about through a question on Emotional Intelligence, and another on how intelligence arises from both emotions and thoughts coming into balance and harmony. A deepening understanding became available when one participant described an image of thoughts and emotions as existing on one plane of experience, and the need for one to rise above that level to a place where both could be seen and held in a more spacious, harmonious wholeness.

James

Self-Inquiry with Henry Fischer, April 30, 2025

Self-Inquiry Meeting
On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 30, 2025

On Wednesday six participants gathered for a KECC sponsored dialogue at the Esquimalt Gorge Park Pavilion in Victoria.

After a period of silence, it was suggested that dialogue may not be about our experience or our expertise but might require one to look at oneself as one has never looked before— not as an idea but as a fact (actuality).

It was suggested that absolutely everything we know or experience might not be love whatsoever. It may be only a memory already conditioned and judged by its utility to this self which is often describes as “me”. Is there a “me”? Why would one ask such a question like this? Does it have something to do with suffering and conflict? Surely in suffering and conflict me is always there. But the suffering is desired to end, and one doesn’t consider instead that perhaps the me could end. Is the “me” the root of this suffering? Does one need this “me” even though of course it continues to produce images and tell a story of what it thinks? Could this bring one to the precipice of being a true revolutionary…

The following Krishnamurti quote is a shortened excerpt from the August 6 entry in Book of Life by J. Krishnamurti:

The true revolutionary
Truth is not for those who are respectable, nor for those who desire self-extension, self- fulfillment. Truth is not for those who are seeking security, permanency; for the permanency they seek is merely the opposite of impermanency. Truth comes to him who is free of time, who is not using time as a means of self-extension. Time means memory of yesterday, memory of your family, of your race, of your particular

As the dialogue began to conclude the group asked questions about fear and attachment. There was a suggestion to bring this forward in May when the dialogues continues with a new facilitator.

Henry Fischer

 

Self-Inquiry with Henry Fischer, April 27, 2025

Self-Inquiry Meeting
On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 27, 2025

On Sunday fourteen participants gathered for a KECC dialogue at Swanwick.

After a period of silence, newcomers were introduced to dialogue as an all inclusive unfolding process that includes thoughts, emotions, feelings, perception, the senses and the subject which is being explored. The invitation is to see if observation naturally connects us and engages us in a passionate exploration of the unknown rather than an affirmation of what we already know.

The following Krishnamurti quote was read from the Book of Life (May 22). This is only an excerpt however the entire entry was read at the dialogue:

All thought is partial
You and I realize that we are conditioned… The fact is that we are conditioned, and that all thought to understand this conditioning will always be partial; therefore there is never a total comprehension, and only in total comprehension of the whole process of thinking is there freedom…

The facilitator asked if it was possible to see anything afresh without the past interfering. The group quickly challenged this pointing out that it may be an ideal but the actuality is that thought is limited and conditioned. Perhaps there was something fresh in considering what is normally taken as real to instead be the unfolding of thought. In this way, the past is new in that it is freshly occurring.

There were also questions about whether we are actually seeing or if instead we are living inside a kind of projection of memory which we take to be ourselves.

Is freedom possible as an actuality or is it just a projected ideal? What does it mean to see the truth of conditioning and yet not to be defined or limited by it? Is there a freedom from the known which is not idealized or imagined?

The group also looked at fear and whether fear was also a description, a movement away from what is.

Henry Fischer

Self-Inquiry with Henry Fischer, April 23, 2025

Self-Inquiry Meeting
On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 23, 2025

On Wednesday seven participants gathered for a KECC sponsored dialogue at the Esquimalt Gorge Park Pavilion in Victoria.

After a period of silence, the group was asked to bring forth any “burning” questions, life experiences or readings from Krishnamurti which the group could examine together. It was asked to further define “what is burning” but the definition was left with the group to determine this meaning. It began with a question about innocence and images (“the idea of ourselves or each other”) to see if innocence and images are mutually exclusive.

Quite appropriately, the group described that they do, in fact, have images of themselves and one another, and that these images sometimes seem to come from a kind of fear or defensiveness, but other times seem to offer value and insight into the nature of another.

Although these images seem to offer insight into the nature of another person, the actuality seems quite the opposite, as these images come from the one who is seeing and not from what is seen? Therefore if these images don’t have an accuracy about what is out there what does that say about the image-maker? Does the image-maker use these images to avoid something? If so what is being avoided? It was suggested that there might be something which doesn’t have a label at all but is somewhat exciting and unsettling, a kind of unknown and unresolved energetic state which is avoided. In lieu of closing comments and because a reading wasn’t offered to begin the inquiry, instead, a reading was brought in to address the kind of unresolved nature beneath images which may not have an object or “known” experience or even permanent state to it.

The following is an excerpt from The Book of Life, J. Krishnamurti (July 5):

We seek happiness through things, through relationship, through thoughts, ideas. So things, relationship, and ideas become all-important and not happiness… Things are impermanent, they wear out and are lost; relationship is constant friction and death awaits; ideas and beliefs have no stability, no permanency. We seek happiness in them and yet do not realize their impermanency… To find out the true meaning of happiness, we must explore the river of self-knowledge. Self-knowledge is not an end in itself. Is there a source to a stream? Every drop of water from the beginning to the end makes the river. To imagine that we will find happiness at the source is to be mistaken. It is to be found where you are on the river of self- knowledge.

Henry Fischer