Self-Inquiry with Henry Fischer, April 13, 2025
Self-Inquiry Meeting
On-site Dialogue with Henry Fischer
April 13, 2025
After a brief period of silence the following Krishnamurti extract from the Book Of Life (June 6) entry was read aloud. Ten participants were present at this dialogue into the truth of our existence:
The highest form of energy
An idea about energy is entirely different from the fact of energy itself. We have formulas or concepts of how to bring about a quality of energy that is of the highest quality. But the formula is entirely different from the renovating, renewing quality of energy itself.
…The highest form of this energy, the apogee, is the state of mind when it has no idea, no thought, no sense of a direction or motive—that is pure energy. And that quality of energy cannot be sought after. You can’t say, “Well, tell me how to get it, the modus operandi, the way.” There is no way to it. To find out for ourselves the nature of this energy, we must begin to understand the daily energy that is wasted—the energy when we talk, when we hear a bird, a voice, when we see the river, the vast sky and the villagers, dirty, ill kept, ill, half-starved, and the tree that withdraws of an evening from all the light of day. The very observation of everything is energy. And this energy we derive through food, through the sun’s rays. This physical, daily energy that one has, obviously can be augmented, increased, by the right kind of food and so on. That is necessary, obviously. But that same energy which becomes the energy of the psyche— that is, thought—the moment that energy has any contradiction in itself, that energy is a waste of energy.
The facilitator discussed the importance of exploring together not merely as an intellectual exercise but to uncover what is operating in human consciousness as we explore any topics we bring forward.
The group looked at contradictions in thought itself and it was suggested that we do not see the contraction perhaps because we are already existing as the contraction. From this the group mainly focused on sense-making and how there appears to be a kind of organization or analysis of what is happening as a kind of thought-projection. Might we experiment to see if it is possible to simply be with being rather than relating in this fragmented way? Other themes like psychological security, trust, resistance to dissolving a sense of self were touched on throughout the dialogue.
Is the appearance of sense-making itself an indication we have lost connection with energy in its highest form. Is it so? Do we see the limitation of thought? Is it almost like thought traces an outline of what we think we are but do we see that this outline doesn’t include the whole of life? There was a sense of looking for something permanent and yet a realization (at least at the intellectual level) that there seems to be nothing permanent in the movement of life.
Henry Fischer
