Self-inquiry with Cynthia Overweg, October 17, 2024

Self-inquiry with Cynthia Overweg 

October 17, 2024 

At Esquimalt Gorge Park Pavilion 

Esquimalt, BC 

 

Five people were present for this Thursday meeting at the lovely Gorge Park site. The event was sponsored by the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada. Cynthia Overweg began the event by holding up a book wherein J. Krishnamurti addressed the topic of How to Find Peace. She highly recommended it to the group. Speaking of the contents, we were led into a discussion of why change does not happen in our world in terms of finding a more peaceful way to live with each other. The way we use words can pit people against each other and small disagreements can produce conflict and violence. Krishnamurti himself was not involved with politics but, still, he spoke against war and conflict for his whole life. The conversation moved into aspects of human behaviour which seem essential to examine. We must question authority, as K did, and learn to be at ease in being alone rather than identifying with groups and nations that emphasise their differences and exaggerate them to the point of combat. He made himself unpopular during his lifetime by questioning the tendency to live in conflict. 

We explored in the group whether or not the message of peace was spreading in the world and we noted the movement in human beings towards more harmony and cooperation. The phenomenon of the hundredth monkey was taken to be a sign of hope in the world, for example. Generally there seems to be a movement towards a mutation in the human brain, something much needed. Participants expressed the necessity for a radically new intelligence to arise and the signs that such may be happening. 

The session was closed with a quiet meditation with a focus on the breath, which can effectively calm the mind. We acknowledged our appreciation of Cynthia’s presence with us and wished her well on her way. 

 

DB 

Self-inquiry with Cynthia Overweg, October 10, 2024

Self-inquiry 

With Cynthia Overweg 

October 10, 2024 

Esquimalt Gorge Park Pavilion 

Esquimalt, BC 

 

This meeting was sponsored by the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada and was held at the Gorge Park Pavilion in Esquimalt with Cynthia Overweg as facilitator. There were eight of us present to enjoy the lovely setting of the pavilion. Cynthia began with thoughts about peace and the suffering of human life. We must be at peace in ourselves, she said, in order to address the issue of peace in the world. Must we not discover how we interact with the rest of the world and how we create suffering? There must be inner peace before there can be outer peace. 

Why should we even care about peace? A powerful response may arise in us but then fade away before long. The situation is very complex. Can we respond in small ways that can make a difference? Can the “new brain” of which Krishnamurti speaks emerge from the old, violent brain? What kind of life do we really want to live? Can differences become less meaningful and love be more predominant? Can we see what we and others really are? Can we love each other? Can we address our fear? Can we do so without being overwhelmed by our situation? How we meet with “what is” is highly significant. Can we act without being attached to the outcomes of our actions? Although self-orientation may be difficult to move beyond, self-awareness is the beginning of compassion. “Seeing” is the essence: we must really look! 

 

DB 

Self-inquiry with Cynthia Overweg, October 6, 2024

Self-inquiry 

With Cynthia Overweg 

October 6, 2024 

At KECC Metchosin 

 

Eight people attended our October 6 Sunday meeting sponsored by the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada and held at the Metchosin, BC, location. Cynthia Overweg was the facilitator. Subjects we explored in the meeting included the fact that nothing is permanent and the existence of the “old” brain vs. the “new brain. Interestingly, the awareness of the old brain is the new brain. In our exploration we touched upon such subjects as the tendency to overthink and the attempt to stop over-thinking. Thought wants to get involved in the transformation, but seeing is the key more than purposeful action. And being in touch with the body is very helpful, for it brings a different quality of attention which could be called “blossoming”. We are the teacher and the student. 

We explored the willingness to surrender to the unknown and to put the mind in the heart, thus creating compassion for ourselves. We need patience in order to unravel our “selves” and “flower”. Making an authority of Krishnamurti is not helpful but trusting the body more than the mind may be of value. 

 

DB 

Self-inquiry with Cynthia Overweg October 3, 2024

Self-inquiry 

With Cynthia Overweg 

October 3, 2024 

At Esquimalt Park Pavilion 

Victoria, BC 

 

Five people in total were present for this meeting sponsored by the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada and facilitated by Cynthia Overweg. Cynthia and Ralph introduced Cynthia and the programs she would be offering, followed by a short meditation guided by Cynthia and focused on awareness of the breath, then including awareness of the body and any tensions being experienced. It was suggested that such attention brings a different quality of awareness and energy. The floor was then opened to any questions or issues participants wished to explore within the group context. The topics that were brought forward for discussion were as follows: 

  • One group member said that she was happy just to be 
  • Another was interested in exploring the mutation of the mind spoken of by Krishnamurti 
  • It was suggested that with attention change happens by itself. 
  • Open curiosity about learning 
  • What is dominating our experience at any moment and can we allow our experience to be and to move through different spaces inwardly and outwardly? 
  • Being together with others can elicit a sense of unity which can feel quite blissful 
  • Are we following a path or more entering a state of open awareness? 

 

DB 

Self-inquiry with Hillary Rodrigues, September 19, 2024

Self-inquiry with Hillary Rodrigues 

September 19, 2024 

At Gorge Pavilion  

Esquimalt, BC    

 

This meeting began with a short period of silence wherein participants were able to be with their own thoughts and feelings. There were only four of us at the gathering, but still we could share and explore together as we looked into some of the teachings of J. Krishnamurti, that being perhaps the main purpose of such meetings along with looking into the understanding of ourselves. As it turned out, one group member was interested in a phrase often presented by K himself: “the observer is the observed.” It is a saying which seems to be only partially grasped by many inquirers and often causes some difficulty in comprehension. In this case we examined a number of angles to the mystery and questions were raised which seemed to be unresolved. A few such issues were as follows: “Is silence the ultimate reality”? And, also, it was asked, “Is it beneficial to understand the nature of the self and the nature of the activities of our consciousness?” Several participants asserted that Krishnamurti indicated in his talks and writings that such understanding is crucial. Some debate about the questions took us to the end of the meeting. 

 

DB       

Self-inquiry with Hillary Rodrigues, September 29, 2024

Self-inquiry with Hillary Rodrigues 

Sunday, September 29, 2024 

At KECC Metchosin, BC 

 

Eight people attended this Sunday afternoon meeting sponsored by the Krishnamurti Centre of Canada. Four of them were new to self-inquiry meetings. It was a lovely day, with weather enabling us to sit out on the front lawn in front of the main house. It was the last meeting for the time-being that will be facilitated by Hillary. After a silent period the meeting was opened to questions and observations. Some participants shared that, for them, Krishnamurti had been difficult to understand but also very valuable and interesting for the exploration of deeper ideas about life and living. 

Hillary outlined some ways of paying attention to both the outer and the inner responses that arise in daily existence. The challenge of the chattering mind was mentioned along with the counter-productive nature of attempting to control it. The “practice” of noticing the activities of thought and feeling was said to be very interesting and valuable in the understanding and transformative power of observing the actions of our conditioned selves and gaining insight into our patterns of behaviour. There was a good deal of discussion about the significance of “seeing” in Krishnamurti’s teachings. Hillary concluded the session with the statement that one of our most challenging issues is the factor of time, both in the realm of the clock and in the psychological sense. 

Participants commented that the dialogue had been very useful for them in the pursuit of “truth” and the study of K’s message. 

 

DB 

Self-inquiry with Hillary Rodrigues September 26, 2024

Self-inquiry 

Thursday, September 26, 2024 

With Hillary Rodrigues 

At Gorge Park Pavilion 

Esquimalt, BC 

 

Five people in total were present for Hillary’s last Victoria meeting. We began with a reading from The Book of Life: Daily Meditations with Krishnamurti in which K speaks of the relation between the brain and the conditioned mind. His explanations were found by the group members to be complex and challenging. As a group we explored the fundamental relationship of the human being to the rest of life and the relationship of all life. Other topics explored were the question “Can the conditioned mind examine itself?”, the emptying of the content of consciousness, being with the “facts” and the movements of the self, the possibility of living with an open vulnerability, and total attention without effort. We closed with the appreciation that our “imperfections are opportunities for discovery and “enlightenment”.  

Exploring Ourselves, September 21, 2024

Exploring Ourselves 

With Jackie McInley 

September 21, 2024 

Online Meeting 

 

Eight people were present for this online meeting sponsored by the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada with Jackie McInley facilitating. She shared some introductory ideas about the purpose and structure of a “dialogue” meeting. There are at least two levels to the structure of the dialogue. The first level is what is happening on the surface and the second is that which is going on behind or beneath the surface, including the motives of the participants in sharing what they do. Group members can be aware of these hidden motives, Jackie has noticed, to varying degrees. As the group process unfolds, the motive or motives start to reveal themselves and some participants are willing to stay with the exploration. David Bohm emphasised this willingness to stick with the process. 

Jackie led us in a quiet sit for about five minutes then asked if anything had come up to be looked at. Did we get pulled into thought or did we remain free of thought? One person brought up the topic of taking things personally that are not meant to be taken so. “Do we take ourselves seriously when we need not do so, and can that issue be looked into?” Another introduced an observation that the mind creates images of the self, which might be explored as well. Does the mind have any choice about the matter? Is one caught up in the self-image or can there be freedom? Does the image I have about myself create conflict? Can this be seen and some freedom be experienced? Can we go into such questions together, as Krishnamurti said, and can we discover something new about ourselves? 

The question of hurt was raised. Is it possible to go beyond any need for others to treat us in a certain way? This involved “shoulds” and introduced the issue of dropping our expectations of how others should behave towards us. Or are our reactions to others automatic defences? And what are we defending? Is it “the me” that is responsible? What is “the me” or the “self”? Can there be a death of “the me”? Can something other than”the me” come into the situation, and how might this come about? Can this happen when there is real listening and observing? This was what K kept saying. One participant asked why this cannot happen. Can we not see the patterns of the self operating in our day-to-day lives? Are we genuinely interested? Somehow we keep getting pulled away from the place of attention. We may think we are listening, but we may not be and may, rather, be thinking. Can we be together in a state of attention? “Something to find out” was a closing comment from one friend. 

 

DB 

Self-inquiry with Hillary Rodrigues, September 15, 2024

Self-inquiry with Hillary Rodrigues 

Sunday, September 15, 2024 

At KECC Metchosin, BC 

 

Ten people in total were present for this Sunday afternoon meeting sponsored by the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada and held at the Swanwick Road location in Metchosin, BC. It was a warm, sunny day, good for sitting outdoors on the front lawn with the gorgeous ocean and mountain views. Our facilitator, Hillary Rodrigues, opened the meeting with a period of silence followed by a verbal description of the main features of “dialogue” meetings. Dialogue, Hillary offered, involves a sensitive observing of what is arising in others as the group interacts with each other and also a sensitive observing of what is arising within ourselves. What is observed can be shared with the group and explored in greater detail. 

One participant mentioned his noticing of a tendency in himself to look for some sense of stability or security as communication moved on. Another questioned whether there is, in fact, any stability or security to be found. Can we remain in a place of stability? This led into an examination of thinking and the creation of a “self” and, in turn, to an inquiry into the possibility of knowing emptiness. We circled around a few questions and came to what seemed like a central issue: the death of the self. Can an “I” or a self-image be aware of its own death? There were a number of issues that group members brought forward, including what was often said by Krishnamurti, that when the self is present love is not – and vice versa. It seems that a kind of psychological death is necessary in order to realise the deeper states of consciousness. 

One group member said that he would like to understand more deeply the meaning of another of K’s sayings: “the observer is the observed”. Participants offered various points of view regarding the issue and it seemed that there was some deepening of understanding concerning it. The discussion went on for some time before time ran out and we dispersed for some snacks and further friendly talk. Most of us seemed to be anticipating our next meeting with some enthusiasm. 

 

DB  

Self-inquiry with Hillary Rodrigues, September 12, 2024

Self-inquiry with Hillary Rodrigues 

Thursday, September 12, 2024 

At Goward House 2495 Arbutus Road 

Victoria, BC 

 

Seven participants were in attendance for this dialogue meeting at Goward House in Victoria sponsored by the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada. Unable to use our usual locations for this meeting, we were able to gather at a lovely house in the forest near the University of Victoria where we felt very comfortable and at ease with the classic furniture and large windows. 

Our facilitator, Hillary, suggested we begin with a period of silence. As we sat quietly, Hillary made some valuable comments about the preciousness of silence. Silence, he said, allows more of a focus than usual on what is going on inside us. Thinking can be “relentless” but also interesting in that it can include one’s own responses to what is going on in others and one can see how the “self” arises in relation to others. 

As we rested in quietness there was a sense of sharing the energy of group presence and unity, which was experienced by some as “love.” In addition there was the experiencing of the arising of the “ego” self, which Krishnamurti and others often recommended we observe carefully. Group members pointed out that, in such a relationship, the various appearances of the “I”, “me” and “mine” can readily be observed. 

We commented on the central place of desire (or latching on to a self) in the occurrence of suffering. 

Although a functional self is necessary, one man pointed out, perhaps a greater need is that of insight. Effective insight is important in any attempt to go beyond the self. We sensed a harmony in the group and a “thinking together” often mentioned by K and which might be felt as more profound than any thinking. 

It was a delightful meeting with a quality of communion. 

 

DB