There were five people who joined in for an exploration of Krishnamurti’s First and Last Freedom on February 4th. The chapter which was explored this week focused on discussion of discipline and the pursuit of truth.
This chapter proposed that the mere act of trying to improve oneself (e.g. through discipline) actually serves instead to reinforce some form of new attachment, such as being serene, chaste, generous, accomplished etc. Even the disciplined undertaking of meditation can be an impediment to the flowering of deep knowing, if the practice is a pursuit with expected outcomes or an end.
“Discipline, conformity, practice, only give emphasis to self-consciousness as being something.” P. 162
This concept posed a bit of a paradox for the group to consider in that there certainly are many self-realized sages who have meditated, reflected on virtues, or tried to be more mindful….
With closer reflection, K’s message seemed to point to a discipline of awareness. True intelligence arises through the noticing of our patterns of ‘self’, seeing the forms that envy or doubt take on. Through our observing, these qualities express in changing ways, which can often become lightened in our curious gaze and acceptance. In fact, Krishnamurti suggests a deeper truth may arise in which there is no separation between the controller (self) and that which is being controlled (expression/behaviours)… it’s one phenomenon.
Later in the book (forgive this leap) K. makes this point in a different way: “When you desire to be transformed, you are still thinking in terms of becoming; that which is becoming can never know that which is being“. Truth shines most clearly when we are being, from moment to moment…. “in the smile, in the tear, under the dead leaf, in the vagrant thoughts, in the fullness of love.” ❤️
Thanks to all who came out and to Bill for facilitating.
Victoria Krishnamurti Event
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauVictoria Krishnamurti Event
Sunday, March 12, 2017
This month’s topic for the Church of Truth meeting was “What is Freedom?” Four of us attended the session. We began with a couple of short clips of Krishnamurti speaking on the subject of study and then formed a circle for group inquiry and exploration. It was emphasized that speaking from our own experience would make the discussion most interesting and relevant as we looked at what freedom means to us and what are some of the challenges to living in freedom. The quality of inquiry was high and the subject became alive in the sharing of our understandings and questions. We came experientially to the point that freedom is beyond words and concepts and transcends the duality of observer and observed.
A video of Rupert Spira was planned to follow the tea break but time had run out and the session was concluded. Future sessions will be held on the first Friday of each month from 7 pm to 9 pm.
Spiritual Inquiry Meetup: Relationships and Conflict, February 12, 2017
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauThis month’s Spiritual Inquiry Meetup at Church of Truth focused on relationships and consideration as to how we relate to one another. A number of talks were profiled featuring Krishnamurti, Scott Kiloby and Rupert Spira. There were seven who joined in for this discussion and each brought a different perspective to bear on the topic. A few of the key messages that surfaced follow.
We tend to relate to one another based on projections we have about each other – our ideas about who our partner is, or stories about their motivations or actions – this prevents a true seeing of one another. We are only seeing what our mind is creating about the other, rather than the true person. K. suggests that a deep questioning of those assumptions, and a deeper seeing is possible when mental projections fall away.
Much of the discomfort and suffering associated with our relationships has to do with ‘under the radar’ needs that we are subtly trying to have met through our partners (e.g. for validation, worthiness, recognition or power). Kiloby emphasised this and encouraged us to become deeply self-aware of these areas of tension and rather than covering them up or avoiding them, trying to allow ourselves to fully meet these internal areas of fear, stress or anxiety.
The group had a lively discussion – including strategies for listening and truly being with each other, as well as committing to meeting conflict head on to enable mutual solutions (rather than leaving residual frustrations for a future time). Of course there also was a question about whether we truly are independent individuals and what relating might be like if all exchanges were born from an experience and deep knowing of inherent one-ness.
It was a wonderful way to spend a Sunday afternoon! Thanks to Robert Keegan for facilitating the gathering.
Stillness Within Meetup: Eckhart Tolle – The Voice Inside Your Head
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauSaturday February 11th
The February Stillness Within Meetup was a great chance for seven of us to get together and enjoy a recently released video talk by Eckhart Tolle called The Voice Inside Your Head. This talk was somewhat introductory, as it was given to employees in a large company, many of whom were not familiar with Eckhart’s teachings.
The highlights of the talk included:
• a description of the process that surrounds much of the suffering we face in life, particularly in situations where the condition (such as losing a job) is somewhat stressful, but the thoughts and stories we tell ourselves about it can tend to create much more fear, anxiety or other kinds of suffering,
• what can happen when we begin to see that we are not our thoughts – that thoughts come and go within something much more expansive (e.g. a sense of awareness or consciousness), and
• not taking our thoughts or internal stories so seriously can be a first step towards loosening the likelihood of feeling consumed by thoughts (or strong feelings). This last one is where Krishnamurti would have pointed to a deeper inquiry or observation… to notice the cycle of our own thoughts, where they come from, the patterns, and also the fact that they are always moving through, taking on different forms over time but at times, being seen as insubstantial or fleeting on their own.
Eckhart talked about some practical strategies for developing a conscious awareness of this broader field of beingness that can even go far beyond a sense of self. He described using a simple breath awareness practice, noticing fully as each breath comes in and out. He also described a practice of sensing body aliveness or scanning, starting with the feeling of life in our hands and feet. Finally, when we have more experience, we may be able to allow the thought process to even subside for periods of time. Through these practices, we may begin to widen our aperture of seeing and sensing, such that identification of a finite self becomes less and less dominant… we see ourselves only as part of wholeness.
It was a lovely session, followed by a group awareness meditative practice which all seemed to enjoy.
Thanks to Krishnamurti Centre for hosting us once again.
The First and Last Freedom: On Discipline
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauThere were five people who joined in for an exploration of Krishnamurti’s First and Last Freedom on February 4th. The chapter which was explored this week focused on discussion of discipline and the pursuit of truth.
This chapter proposed that the mere act of trying to improve oneself (e.g. through discipline) actually serves instead to reinforce some form of new attachment, such as being serene, chaste, generous, accomplished etc. Even the disciplined undertaking of meditation can be an impediment to the flowering of deep knowing, if the practice is a pursuit with expected outcomes or an end.
“Discipline, conformity, practice, only give emphasis to self-consciousness as being something.” P. 162
This concept posed a bit of a paradox for the group to consider in that there certainly are many self-realized sages who have meditated, reflected on virtues, or tried to be more mindful….
With closer reflection, K’s message seemed to point to a discipline of awareness. True intelligence arises through the noticing of our patterns of ‘self’, seeing the forms that envy or doubt take on. Through our observing, these qualities express in changing ways, which can often become lightened in our curious gaze and acceptance. In fact, Krishnamurti suggests a deeper truth may arise in which there is no separation between the controller (self) and that which is being controlled (expression/behaviours)… it’s one phenomenon.
Later in the book (forgive this leap) K. makes this point in a different way: “When you desire to be transformed, you are still thinking in terms of becoming; that which is becoming can never know that which is being“. Truth shines most clearly when we are being, from moment to moment…. “in the smile, in the tear, under the dead leaf, in the vagrant thoughts, in the fullness of love.” ❤️
Thanks to all who came out and to Bill for facilitating.
Awareness In Daily Life, Weekend Retreat
/in Event Summaries /by David Bruneau“Awareness in Daily Life”
Weekend Retreat January 27 -29, 2017
This weekend retreat was facilitated by Lynne Walker and David Bruneau, both of whom have been involved with the Krishnamurti Centre for some years. The idea of the retreat was to create an environment of support for looking and listening to ourselves in a simple and direct way that invited insight and fresh seeing into ourselves. An attitude of questioning and “not-knowing” was encouraged and practiced by the twelve people who attended. The schedule included silent sitting, guided meditations, video and audio featuring Krishnamurti and Toni Packer, some brief handouts for contemplation, group dialogues, and time for quiet walks and rest, journaling and conversation. Meals were provided by Glenrosa Restaurant. The participants were generally very present and attentive to the material and opportunities for exploration that were offered; there was lively and revealing interaction in the dialogue sessions. The question was asked often throughout the weekend, “What is alive in us in this moment?” There was a process of learning how to be with ourselves and whatever is arising as well as how to communicate with each other in a way that supports real inquiry, looking and listening. There were challenging moments for some of the participants, all of which were held in the space of open presence within the group. We learned as we went along. Everyone expressed that the weekend was one of great value and relevance.
Krishnamurti Study Group
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauKrishnamurti Study Group
Saturday, January 21, 2017
The subject of study for this session was Q & A # 5 “On Discipline” in The First and Last Freedom by J. Krishnamurti. A questioner had asked K if self-discipline was necessary for moderating the “instincts of the brute in man” in order to realize God. K asked if these tendencies in the human being can be dealt with by suppression, sublimation, control, or by attempting to approximate one’s behavior to an ideal. Is there not a need for a more intelligent response to the issue, a creative response which does not involve the deadening of self-discipline as control. The five participants were asked at the beginning if we could look into the question without preconceived ideas and be open to fresh and new ways of seeing. This was done very effectively and one person commented that we were in fact doing what K suggested as we inquired into the question. There was a sense of discovery and a feeling of wholeness in the group members. A very enjoyable session.
Inquiry Sunday at KECC
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauInquiry Sunday
Sunday, January 22, 2017
Nine people were present on Sunday morning for a video presentation of Mooji guiding a seeker through the process of self-inquiry. The particular interaction had been chosen because of its clarity and depth in dealing with the subject of looking into one’s own nature and thought processes. An intelligent and careful inquiry can reveal false assumptions being believed by “the mind” and obscuring the knowing of our pure Being. Are we not the awareness which perceives everything that arises, no matter what it is? Everything that we perceive is arising in a field of pure awareness which is what we essentially are. It needs no effort or practice to be realized, only the immediate looking at what is here as the ground of all experience. The participants were asked to put into one sentence the essence of what they had understood, something that could be easily remembered and “practiced”. The sharing that followed was interesting and very much to the point.
The afternoon session involved looking at some video clips of Krishnamurti answering questions from the audience at some of his talks. The first question was, “Is suffering necessary to make us face the necessity to change?” K explored the common assumption that suffering is noble and spiritual and went into the deeper causes of our suffering and the possibility of freedom from it. The second question we looked at was “What is enlightenment?’ K explored the issue from a few different perspectives, including enlightenment as understanding an aspect of our lives as well as understanding ourselves very deeply. He also asked who is to claim enlightenment and questioned the validity of such claims. The three participants who had stayed for the afternoon session engaged in some discussion of the questions, K’s responses to them and our own understanding of the issues.
January 14th Stillness Within Eckhart Tolle –
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauDuring the January regular meetup, 7 of us gathered to explore a number of common Qs and As that have been asked of Eckhart Tolle, including dealing with illness, whether pain or suffering is necessary for evolution of consciousness, and how we can overcome fear in the midst of health crisis.
There were quite a few points in the responses that resonated with the group. For example, the notion that suffering or pain can present an opportunity to surrender (rather than get caught up in a narrative around the situation or resisting the situation in some way).
The group felt that some of the content shared by Eckhart was definitely valued in terms of life experiences currently arising in our lives. And that finding quiet joy in small day to day moments, can bring a subtle experience of lightness, even in the midst of challenges or ’emotional’ storm fronts that may pass through.
With time left over at the end, we also watched a video which was recently released: Happiness beyond thought. Eckhart echoed Krishnamurti’s pointing here. He suggested that we all experience at times, brief pauses between thoughts that eventually become wider and deeper… often these are the times that a sense of divine, or subtle unlimited joy can arise… showing us aspects of our own existence that our day to day experiences often miss. Of course, like K. points out… this subtle joy is less accessible when the mind is consumed by constant thought.
January 2 Stillness Within Mini-Retreat
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauFinding Deeper Awareness Mini-Retreat
This half day event brought 22 people together to share a passion for inner discovery. The presenters offered their experience with a recent program focusing on practices that can support a fundamental sense of well-being. A few of the themes that were explored included:
Meditation as an evolving discovery rather than a ritualized goal-oriented practice
Krishnamurti’s teachings on Choiceless Awareness speak to a similar pointing:
“Great seers have always told us to acquire experience. They have said that experience gives us understanding. But it is only the innocent mind, the mind unclouded by experience, totally free from the past; it is only such a mind that can perceive what is reality. If you see the truth of that, if you perceive it for a split second, you will know the extraordinary clarity of a mind that is innocent. This means the falling away of all the encrustations of memory, which is the discarding of the past.”
And “… if you give it your complete attention, which is to be attentive with your whole being, then you will see that there is an immediate perception in which no time is involved, in which there is no effort, no conflict; and it is this immediate perception, this choiceless awareness that puts an end to sorrow.”
J. Krishnamurti, The Book of Life
Links to some of the other content that was explored:
Finders research
Rupert Spira
Mystical Experiences
Guided breath meditation, similar to the one we did together
Krishnamurti Study Group
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauKrishnamurti Study Group Saturday, December 17, 2016 On a cold wintery day only two of us showed up for the study session. We read and discussed a chapter from The First and Last Freedom, the Questions and Answers #3: “Why Spiritual Teachers?” K takes up the question as to whether a teacher or guru is necessary and is it possible for truth to be given by another. The text provoked some exploration of the truth and value of absolute statements about such matters. It was an interesting discussion of possible viewpoints and the seeing that all viewpoints and conclusions are limited. K’s emphasis on understanding our motives for wanting a teacher was seen to be very significant. The inquiry brought us to a place of open, spacious looking and being which was felt to be beyond concepts and ideas.