“The Known” IS Freedom

One of K’s famous books and teachings was titled “Freedom from the Known.” But, as with all words, “known” can be a paradox of sorts. Rupert Spira uses the word (pointer) to establish the relationship of Awareness and Experience. Here is a small excerpt from Rupert’s latest Essay/Dialogue published this month in the SAND 2014 Newsletter, “The Nature of Experience.” I found it very compelling and recommend reading the entire essay. Here is the link.  “Our only experiential knowledge of the world is perception – sights, sounds, tastes, textures and smells. In fact, nobody has ever found an independently existing object or world; all that is ever found are perceptions. We cannot therefore even say we have perceptions of the world because that world has never been found. We can only say for sure that we know perceptions. And perceptions are never known independently of Awareness. This is the startling but simple fact of experience that our culture has not yet faced: matter, the dead inert stuff out of which the independently existing universe is supposed to be made, has never been found. Matter is a concept, a valuable concept that is useful as a working model in some situations, but nevertheless a concept. It has never been found. Nor will it ever be found for whatever is found is, by definition, never known independently of Awareness. In fact, even the model of thoughts, sensations and perceptions appearing in Awareness does not stand up to the scrutiny of experience. It is a half way stage that dissolves the belief in the independent reality of matter and mind and establishes the presence and the primacy of Awareness. But once this has been established, not philosophically but in our actual experience, this model too has to be abandoned in favor of one that more accurately reflects the reality of experience. All we know of a thought is the experience of thinking, all we know of a sensation is the experience of sensing, all we know of a sight is the experiencing of seeing, all we know of a sound is the experience of hearing etc. And all that is known of thinking, sensing, seeing, hearing, touching, tasting and smelling is the knowing of them. And what is it that knows this knowing? Only something that itself has the capacity to know could know anything. So it is knowing that knows knowing. All that is ever known is pure knowing, knowing and being itself. And that knowing is your self. All that is known is Awareness knowing itself, the self knowing the self. There is only your self – not a self that belongs to any object or person because there are no objects or people as such to which it could belong. This knowing belongs to itself alone. It is itself and knows itself alone. There are no others or objects there, no inside self or outside world. And what is the name we commonly give to this absence of otherness, distance, separation and objectness? It is beauty or love. Beauty is the discovery that objects are not objects; love is the discovery that others are not others.”

Krishnamurti Study Group

Krishnamurti Study Group Saturday, September 20, 2014 Six participants came together to sit outside on a lovely afternoon and continue the study of chapter 15 in Freedom From the Known.   The chapter deals with the topics of experience, satisfaction, duality, and meditation.  Krishnamurti speaks of what is not meditation in the first place and then explores the kind of attention and awareness in one’s daily life that he calls real meditation:  “Meditation is to be aware of every thought and of every feeling, never to say it is right or wrong but just to watch it and move with it.  In that watching you begin to understand the whole movement of thought and feeling.  And out of this awareness comes silence.”    Meditation is a state of complete attention, which cannot be taught by anyone but is perhaps the greatest art in life.  It can be going on at any time or place and it opens the possibility of knowing love. A group discussion was interspersed with the reading of the text, with some exploration of quite subtle aspects of how thought creates the duality of observer and observed, subject and object.  Other subjects of investigation were brought up by participants and, as often happens, the group was fully immersed in the discussion when the session was brought to a close.  There remains one chapter to be studied in this book and then we will move on to examine the text The First and Last Freedom.

Victoria Krishnamurti Event

Krishnamurti Video and Dialogue Victoria, BC September 14, 2014   It was another hot and sunny summer day in Victoria but still four people showed up for the afternoon event at the Church of Truth.   The video shown was from the Attention and Order series of talks in Ojai in the spring of 1984.  It was the second talk.   K went into a number of issues as usual, but he focused particularly on the problem of fear in our lives and how thought and time are responsible.  He emphasized that he was not giving a lecture but that he and the audience must explore together and have direct insight into the question.  It is also essential to go right to the very end of the investigation into fear and not get stuck half way.   A very open and vulnerable dialogue followed the video in which the group honestly examined some of their own experience with fear and conflict.   One theme that emerged was the idea, often expressed by Krishnamurti, that our feelings and emotions – our psychological life – is something that is common to all humanity and how this can awaken more of a sense of compassion for others and for ourselves as we inquire into these types of issues.  The central factor of the belief in a “separate self” was discussed, as often seems to be the case.

Krishnamurti Study Group

Krishnamurti Study Group Saturday, September 6, 2014 Five of us showed up to read and discuss Chapter 15 in Freedom From the Known in which Krishnamurti discusses experience, satisfaction, duality, and meditation. He begins by inquiring into the demand to experience and questioning what is driving this demand: the fact that we are discontented with what is. This implies a basic duality involving resisting what is and seeking some other experience. He goes into the whole nature of experience and its grounding in the known in some detail. The group took some silent time to look into the issue of discontent with the present moment and the subsequent discussion took us into issues of fear, suffering, and the belief in a separate “me”. Can fear and suffering actually be seen to be unreal as some say, or is that merely a concept or ideal without substance? What seems to be necessary is to go into and through the ego to a state of mind that is more real and true. This includes the exploration of how we can be with, or be open to, the unknown, as K seems to suggest is a key. The dialogue was very lively and perhaps somewhat challenging to some of the assumptions held by the thinking mind.

Krishnamurti Study Group

  Krishnamurti Study Session Saturday, August 23, 2014     This week we studied the second half of chapter 14 in Freedom From the Known by J. Krishnamurti.   The subject matter included Achievement, Discipline, Silence, Truth, and Reality.  There were seven participants and they all were eager to explore.  A lively discussion began immediately even before we had read any of the text and the investigation covered a broad range of issues which were presented by the participants.  There was an in-depth exploration of fear and insecurity and the question of where true security lies.   What is real silence and what is the silence that K is pointing to were questions that challenged the group to look into the text material and their own understanding.   It was a lovely summer day and the enjoyment of contemplating ourselves and Truth was enhanced by being able to sit outdoors in the beautiful surroundings.

What does it take to change?

What we learn by reading or listening to the teachings of spiritual teachers, depends very much on how we read or listen. Some people feel that they did not change much by reading Krishnamurti’s books for many years. That may be because they tried to understand Krishnamurti’s teachings instead of looking within to see how their own mind worked in the daily activities and in their relationship with human beings, nature and things around. It seems to me that if Krishnamurti’s books or talks did not make an immediate impact on your life, then it is most likely that you were not interested in learning about yourself. You were interested in collecting knowledge or ideas about Krishnamurti and his teachings just like scholars and professors. One professor told Krishnamurti-“Sir, I have studied your teachings for 30 years but I have not moved at all (I have not changed).” Krishnamurti said-“You have not moved because you have not stopped!” To stop means to stop reading and looking within in daily activities of relationship. By looking within in awareness, we learn directly. This direct learning by looking within begins to change the quality of our life and relationship. Then we do not repeat Krishnamurti’s ideas. We become more authentic in our observation and expression.

Weekend Events at the Centre

  Krishnamurti Study Group Saturday, August 2, 2014   Seven people gathered to study Chapter 14 in Freedom From the Known by J. Krishnamurti.   The first part of the chapter focuses on the need for a quiet mind and the issue of resolving psychological problems.   K challenges us to find the way to solve a problem immediately by seeing how the problem itself is created by thought.   There was some reading of the text and then some focused discussion of the issues raised.  Participants were very attentive and present to the exploration and it seemed like some valuable insights occurred.  There was a period of silence during which we looked at what prevents a quiet mind and the immediate resolution of a problem.  Further interesting discussion followed.     Inquiry Sunday Sunday, August 3, 2014 In the afternoon a video of Krishnamurti was shown on the topic of Death:  Leaving the Stream.  The half hour compilation is one of the Evelyn Blau series “Beyond Myth and Tradition”.   There were some comments from the six participants that this video was a particularly clear and direct presentation of a central aspect of K’s teachings.  After the DVD the group broke up into pairs and explored what was significant about what had been heard and how it was relevant the our lives.  A group dialogue followed during which the question “What does it mean to die psychologically every day, every moment?”  was addressed by the group among other topics.   The beautiful weather allowed us to sit outdoors frequently over the weekend, which seems to add a certain quality of expansiveness and broader attention.      

A Sigh of Relief Felt by All Humankind

Over the last six months I’ve been deeply intrigued by the teachings of Jiddu Krishnamurti. He was not at all the type of spiritual guru many people might assume. He firmly rejected any efforts to paint him as such (he rejected the notion of being a guru, and also of having followers). In actuality, his teachings were rooted in an almost supernatural understanding of human psychology, and he explored the nature of self and thought in a way that is stunningly intelligent and lucid. On the surface, his observations can come across as very intellectual, and yet what he was doing is pointing us beyond the realm of words and thought to a place of true freedom. Many of his concepts are actually quite simple, such as his explanations of the relationship between self and society. Those concepts that are more complicated are revealed as being quite sublime once they have begun to find their way into the deeper layers of the psyche. One of Krishnamurti’s key observations is that “the observer is the observed”. This can also be interpreted as “the thinker is the thought”. He asserted that thinking and the entity perceived as thethinker are in actuality a unitary process. And this makes perfect sense to me, although my understanding is still limited to the realm of intellectual thought. Really, there is only thought occurring in the field of awareness, and the entity we understand as being the thinker- the self- is no more than a defined sense we develop as a result of conscious and subconscious processes that draw on the accumulated knowledge of our past experiences. Even as we project this self onto our experience as it is unfolding in the present, we are simply making sense of the present by juxtaposing it with knowledge from the past. That knowledge that we are using to interpret the present is always extremely limited, even being rooted in a deep form of existential ignorance, and so we are perceiving our experience in a very limited and disconnected way. In other words, we are living in our limited understanding of the past as it relates to the present, and that includes the way we perceive ourselves. This would be fine if it did not also lead to so much conflict in our personal lives, and also on a global societal level. It can be argued that all conflict, as it manifests both personally and socially, is the result of this fragmented way of existing. We may sometimes break through this barrier to the present moment, in moments when our egos aren’t being triggered by external objects or events. Perhaps in those moments when we truly feel we are one with nature then we may be achieving a less distorted way of being. Personally, I have a great deal of affinity for the ocean and the forest, and when I’m in nature I notice that I’m not necessarily relating to my surroundings through the lens of the “I”. I have often felt that the sights and sounds of the ocean inhabit my being in a way that frees me from the burdens of my self, of my ego. I think that might be a glimpse of a different way of being. It’s much harder to achieve and maintain this state in a world of other “I’s”, subconsciously working at substantiating and perpetuating themselves as individuals in ways that are often competitive, superficial and passively aggressive. With the right understanding, with the right insight, I wonder if it might be possible to live without always relating to our experiences with the “I” at the centre, possibly freeing ourselves from the tension and anxiety of the constant state of inner reaction that now dominates most of our lives. If only we could truly see that this transient “I” that we are always defending and striving to nurture and reinforce is not at all what we think it is- that we are infinitely more sublime and essential than that- I wonder if we might wake up and sigh a sigh of relief that could be felt by all humankind.

JK on Violence

This came in on my facebook page yesterday…thought I should pass it on.

Another Beautiful Retreat at Swanwick

Last weekend, I had the pleasure and privilege of attending my third retreat at the Swanwick Centre. It was facilitated with skill and wisdom by KFA trustee Mark Lee, retired physician Asha Lee and psychiatrist and psychotherapist Josip Pasic. “Quieting the Monkey Mind” was an exploration into the nature of thought and mind, inspired by Krishnamurti’s teachings on the subject. The event was very well attended, and the participants all contributed their own wisdom and insight, making the retreat a very rich experience. It was also a joy to relax in the swimming pool, with the majestic view of the ocean and the stunning surroundings. Blessed with gorgeous weather, we spent much of the retreat sitting outside and engaging in a relaxed but challenging dialogue inspired by a number of recorded talks given by K, which we watched over the course of the weekend. Together we inquired into such matters as the function and limitations of thought, the relationship between thought and intelligence, the root of fear, and the nature of intelligence itself. We also discussed K’s statement that “the observer is the observed”, which we delved into from the analogous viewpoint that “the thinker is the thought”. K’s assertion that the thinker and thinking are a unitary process really blows my mind. As I understand it, thought occurs after perception, and then gives rise to the entity we then perceive as the thinker. There is only actually thought occurring within the field of awareness. This also makes sense to me, in the sense that we cannot be an object in the field of our own awareness (we cannot exist outside of ourselves). Rather, we are awareness itself. If we can begin to see “our selves” differently, there lies the potential to live from a more intelligent and flowing place, more in tune with this experience as it is unfolding in the present. Never before have I been so impressed with the caliber of discussions as I have at the retreats held at Swanwick. K spoke with such amazing intelligence and clarity. The people who are drawn to his teachings seem to be individuals of great intelligence and integrity, and it has been a true pleasure to sit and dialogue with all of them, facilitators and participants alike.