Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown, April 28, 2024

Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown

April 28, 2024

At KECC, Metchosin, BC

 

Seven people were present for this Sunday afternoon meeting at the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada, facilitated by Jeff Brown and held at the Metchosin, BC location. After a period of silence, Jeff opened the floor to discussion of whatever was interesting to the participants. Somehow the use of the word “God” and related concepts was brought forward and a quite lengthy exploration followed with focus on the question of what is sacred and what do such words mean to us or to others. Is there a quality of experiencing which has a sense of depth and beauty, love and unity, and which could be called an expression of the heart when the thinking mind is in abeyance or in the background? Krishnamurti seemed to be open to such depths of awareness and to be pointing us towards such fullness and completeness of Being.

We asked what can give access to such realms of beauty and does the contact with the “heart” then enable one to live in a way that is attuned to the intelligence of the “heart”. To live in a more or less constant state of learning was mentioned by a few of us as a desirable state to realize or embody while at the same time not losing the humility and innocence of “not-knowing”.

Participants were invited to share a meal at the MyChosen Cafe, which proved to be an enjoyable experience of friendship and a lovely way to complete our afternoon

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The End of Suffering, April 26 – 28, 2024

The End of Suffering

April 26 – 28, 2024

with Kathryn Jefferies

Zoom online

We were happy to welcome back Kathryn after some years without contact. She was not able to join us in person but we found her online presence to be very satisfying and effective in communicating her message. Eight people were present for the three meetings spread over three days and engaging us for almost two hours each session.

Kathryn introduced herself to the group and shared some of the background to her work and the connection with Krishnamurti, whom she has greatly admired and found very helpful in her pursuit of self-knowledge and self-inquiry. She has also found The Work of Byron Katie to be extremely useful and complementary to working with Krishnamurti’s teachings. “Katie,“ she said, “is the how to Krishnamurti’s what.” The weekend was to be a demonstration of this fact in our direct experience, facilitated by Kathryn, who proceeded to guide us through an exercise in noticing what is happening in our own experience. Both K and Katie, Kathryn said, were interested in exploring what suffering actually is rather than in just getting rid of it. To this end Katie had developed a series of questions which could penetrate the beliefs that we hold about life, the behaviour of others and ourselves, and our suffering. Thoughts believed cause suffering but thoughts questioned bring freedom. Using her questions, Katie asks her fellow inquirer to examine the truth or falseness of his or her complaints about a person’s behaviour and what is being expected. Kathryn asked us to go through the questions in each of our personal situations. This is a way of bringing our assumptions and beliefs to light and, as Krishnamurti said, discovering the self in “the action of relationship.” We see the “stories” that our mind is running. The inquiry is most effective if we want to see the truth rather than seeking to support our egos.

After thoroughly questioning ourselves, we employed some “turn-arounds” which provided new and different perspectives on our beliefs and behaviours. “She is rejecting me” becomes “she is not rejecting me” or “I am rejecting me” and other variations. In each case the inquirer asks in what way the turn-around is true. The turn-arounds were surprisingly effective in revealing the mind at work and dissolving the concepts of thought which limit our sense of freedom. What is left is a greater degree of compassion and kindness. The participants found the process of the workshop to be most helpful.

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Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown, April 24, 2024

Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown

Wednesday, April 24, 2024

Esquimalt Gorge Pavilion

Victoria, BC

 

Eight people were present for this Wednesday afternoon meeting facilitated by Jeff Brown and attended by several new participants who added a unique flavour to the interactions making up the group dialogue process. The session began with a short meditation or quiet period; it was then followed by introductions. It was suggested that people bring forward any questions or topics of interest that the group might explore together. One of the first-timers explained that such self-exposure might prove challenging to him, but with encouragement he was able to speak of his persistent difficulty in sharing about himself in such a setting. Other group members found ways of responding that brought forth some interesting questions and comments. Jeff wondered if we might say what it was that each one of us was looking for when we engaged in a dialogue with others willing to explore together. The answer that came was that the individual was looking for a “free mind”.

The idea of a free mind triggered the question “What is freedom and why do we want to be free?” A number of responses were offered, one of which suggesting that freedom may be connected with having a sense of control over the mind. One person offered that Krishnamurti’s approach was perhaps more one of learning about ourselves from self-observation than one of controlling the behaviour of thought and emotion. Learning could bring an insight which might change our behaviour. It was stated that this might be what was “meditation” for Krishnamurti.

We explored in some depth the significance of attachment in relation to freedom, or the lack of it, and the importance of seeing the patterns of attachments and habits which keep us from being free. Does it work, we asked, when we seek to achieve an ideal, or is it more effective to see clearly the way things are and to be with the “fact” rather than the idea? This would imply dealing with our fears and resistances. For one participant it would likely require that he examine his sense of “despair”.

The meeting seemed to be enjoyable and valuable for al of those present.

 

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Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown, April 21, 2024

Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown

Sunday, April 21, 2024

At KECC Metchosin, BC

 

There were nine participants in attendance for this Sunday afternoon meeting at the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada location at 538 Swanwick Rd. in Metchosin. It was a sunny day, a little on the cold and windy side, and we decided to hold the meeting on the front lawn. We were treated with the beautiful ocean and mountain views and the lovely Gary Oak trees giving the property its delightful variety of objects such as grass, bushes, rocks and clouds floating in a blue sky. After some moments of silence there was a sharing of a contrasting reality that seemed to hold all objects in an open space which penetrated their solidity. Jeff asked if anyone had a question they would like to explore with the group and this awakened a few lines of inquiry which became more and more absorbing. The discussion turned to the strange fact of this existence of emptiness and fullness at the same time, as spoken of in Buddhist texts from long ago. There was a quality of mystery and a sense, at least for some, of being without separation from one’s surroundings. Each dialoguer expressed his or her own experience of known and unknown as we explored our sense of self or no-self. It was difficult to describe, but participants made valiant attempts at putting words to the blend of form and emptiness which most seemed to register in the present moment. The noticing of a few fences on the property triggered thoughts of division and a recognition that we may all be as guilty as anyone of creating division while pretending that we are only interested in togetherness and sharing. We may not, it was said, be as innocent of creating separation as we’d like to think.

The conversation turned to a questioning of relationships and their value. What value does right relationship have, and what about so-called “healing relationship?” it was asked. As is often the case in our dialogues, the nature of the self was brought forward for examination along with the nature of conflict and its source or root. How much self-protection do we surround ourselves with as we go about our daily lives? Can we learn about our defensiveness as we observe our reactions in our lives. Such seemed to be the essence of Krishnamurti’s teachings.

The group appeared to be enjoying itself as we continued to question the nature of our experience. We gave up trying to stay warm as the day grew colder and moved to the Gatehouse for some tasty fruit and cookies, along with further conversation and enjoyment of each other’s company.

 

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Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown

Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown
April 17, 2024
Esquimalt Gorge Pavilion
Victoria, BC

Six people were present for this Wednesday afternoon meeting at the
lovely Gorge Pavilion on Tillicum Road, all regular participants in
dialogues sponsored by the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada.
Jeff Brown was facilitating the meeting and he began with a period of
silence, which is a very common way to start a meeting in the
Krishnamurti world. We then looked into a number of issues which are
also often probed at our meetings as a means of understanding the
workings of our own minds and hearts as recommended by J.
Krishnamurti and forming the essence of his teachings on
self-knowledge.
The discussion or exploration followed a number of directions over the
hour and a half of the gathering. Athe topics could be labelled, if we were
to give them names, as some of the following:
– the sense of isolation involving attachment to ideas and to an
identity as a separate individual
– the formation of a sense of “self” or “ego”. (This is a regular topic of
exploration in our inquiry sessions).
– facing the unknown and being present with unusual and challenging
sensations and experiences
– sorrow, guilt, and isolation
– death, attachment, and the possibility of “letting go”
– the attachment to activity and having things happen
– ignorance vs. stupidity
– the importance of “awareness” and insight into the nature of our
thinking
– the creation of meaning and the importance of agreement in giving
meaning to life.
– the cruelty of nature vs. that of human beings
– the place of compassion
– the value of dialogue
– knowledge vs. insight
– free will and determinism
The group members seemed to very much enjoy inquiring into the
subjects that were of interest to participants and expressed their
appreciation of the dialogue.

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Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown, April 14, 2024

Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown

April 14, 2024

At Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada

Metchosin, BC

 

Ten people were present in total for this Sunday afternoon meeting at the Metchosin location of the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada. It was a sunny afternoon providing an opportunity to sit outside on the front lawn for the first time this year. The weather turned more cold and windy as the afternoon progressed, but most of the participants seemed to be fairly comfortable and able to enjoy the outdoors with the mountains, the ocean, and the trees all providing a lovely natural setting for the discussion of our true identity as human beings and perhaps beyond.

Jeff, our facilitator for the session, introduced a number of ideas about the functioning of the brain which were based on the experience of Jill Bolte Taylor when she had a spontaneous awakening resulting from, as she described it, a stroke in the left side of her brain which revealed to her capacities which had been previously completely unknown. Jeff had spoken previously of the extraordinary shift in Jill’s consciousness produced by this sudden change in the functioning of her brain which she had described as an opening of capacities which Jeff took to be similar in many ways to the mystical aspects of J. Krishnamurti’s experiences which formed much of the essence of his understandings and the teachings which emerged from them.

For both Krishnamurti and Taylor it was clear that thought cannot possibly describe the wholeness of the reality perceived by the right side of the brain, which shows the world in a non-linear and translogical mode that the left side cannot grasp but which can offer a deeper meaning and comprehension of what is possible for a human being to see and feel. Krishnamurti often spoke of the benediction that was available when thought became silent and that which is beyond thought could then reveal itself. We explored at some length the possibilities of entering into the unknown. Can we experience the unknown through our own efforts? Can the separate self that conditions our usual mode of experiencing life ever be vulnerable and sensitive to the truth beyond its own habitual ways of knowing reality? Do we need to cling to our familiar identity, our ideas of who and what we are? Can we move past the stuckness of our assumptions about ourselves and what is possible for us as human beings? Can we experience ourselves beyond our common and known identities? Just bringing up the questions seemed to create more space and openness in the group.

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Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown, April 7, 2024

Self-inquiry with Jeff Brown

Sunday, April 7, 2024

At Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada

Metchosin, BC

Jeff has offered to facilitate self-inquiry meetings at the Krishnamurti Centre in Metchosin or elsewhere when we are in need of someone skilled and capable of leading dialogues (when regular presenters are temporarily not available). He appears to have a deep understanding of the dialogue and self-inquiry process and we are grateful for his willingness to take on the role when needed. On this occasion there were only a total of four participants present for the 1 ½ hour meeting which, nevertheless, turned out to be interesting and valuable in probing the perspectives shared by J. Krishnamurti during his lifetime.

Jeff opened the session with some explanation of the ways in which Krishnamurti and Physicist David Bohm explored the nature of reality together during their explorations of “shared meaning” and the workings of the human consciousness. One of the important inquiries they shared was a sometimes intensive examination of the nature of conflict and division and the possibility of transcending the sense of separateness between so-called individuals. Such inquiry included insight into the power of language and thought to create division and conflict.

Jeff spoke of a tribe in the Amazon – the Praha tribe – which apparently had a very different way of seeing the world and of expressing what they saw. This led into a discussion of the place of knowledge, language, and memory and a questioning of our very basic identity. “Are we anything but memory?” Jeff asked, challenging the group to look deeply into the ways we form our understandings and perceptions of ourselves and our world. “What is the self?” became the core question bringing us towards the difficulty of contemplating the Unknown and of following Krishnamurti’s lead into such indefinable territory. It provoked some very interesting looking and sharing within the small group.

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What is Real Inquiry?

What is Real Inquiry?

March 20 – 24, 2024

With Jackie McKinley

Zoom Online

 

Jackie joined us online from the UK for two hours each of five days with the intention of going deeply into the question of what inquiry really is. Five days was considered to offer enough time to penetrate the issue in a way that might open up some significant “understanding” or insight into what J. Krishnamurti meant in his talks and writings by inquiry and/or self-observation. Fourteen people were present, including staff working with the Krishnamurti Educational Centre of Canada.

After the usual silent period Jackie shared a wondering about why people keep coming back to participate in the group dialogue process as “practised” within the context of Krishnamurti’s teachings and his approach to self-knowledge and self-transformation. And is the first step, the way we begin, important? What goes on behind the activity of thought or “the mind”? Is there actually much inquiry, looking, or observation actually going on? Are we actually aware of what is happening in our unconscious minds, our conditioned consciousness, as individuals and as expressions of the human race? How much do we miss when we look within ourselves? Are we aware or are we just thinking?

Jackie narrowed down the question to “What do I really want?” and encouraged group members to share their responses freely. Some of the answers were as follows:

– I want to understand what conditioning is

– I want to live in awareness as a felt sense

– I want to practise inquiry

– I would like to move beyond expectations and to see myself directly

– I want wholeness

– I would like to be involved in self-inquiry in a fuller way

– I want to share with others and explore our connectivity as humans

– I want clarification

– I want to have more fun in my life

– I want to be more alive

– I’d like to understand the source of my difficulties and I need help with this process

– I want honest communication

– I want intimacy, a pleasurable sharing with others physically, emotionally, and intellectually.

– I want distance from others at times

 

One participant expressed that as we engaged in the sharing he felt there was a kind of “peeling away” which felt like intimacy. Another asked if we were pushing down our desiring or wanting, and what happens when we do that? Are there desires I dare not look at? Do I fear being judged for my desires? Do I have space for looking at my wants, my fears, and my secrets? Would I just like to relax? Can I step out of myself? Does our sharing open us up or the opposite?

 

The feelings of “emptiness” and fear were mentioned and the issue of “managing” such feelings was discussed. We went into numerous such questions over the course of the five days, seeking greater revealing of our hidden tendencies, beliefs, and ideas. At times the inquiry process seemed very challenging to stay with and it was difficult to keep finding the meaning in what was being shared, though we kept pushing more deeply into the layers of our thinking and feeling. Core aspects of our identities were brought forward and the way we hold on to “content” in our way of behaving and relating or “let go” of it was examined. We asked if we have hidden motivations and, if so, how do we discover them? Are we really creating a “safe space” for each other?

The subject of contradiction in ourselves was raised. Krishnamurti maintained that thought is contradictory in its very nature. We often avoid the contradictions that influence our lives. Are we “doing” this by choice or is it mostly unconscious behaviour? How clearly do we see the movements of the “I” in all our thoughts and actions and is this an important aspect of “meditation” as K speaks of it? Do we resist inquiry at a deep level? Are we using thought to explore thought and is that not limited? What did K mean when he spoke or wrote of “negation”?

Over the five days of dialogue we seemed to cover a great deal of ground. Towards the end our attention moved towards the meaning of “love” and the reality of “sorrow” and “separateness”. Finally we came to the question of “emptying” the consciousness, which seemed to bring a sense of completion without a sense of conclusion.

 

Thank you, Jackie, for your wise and skillful guidance into the realm of inquiry

AWARE LIVING CAFE, MARCH 16/24

This final in the six-part series had 8 attendees; the Book Of Life themes were Relationship and Fear. We started with a deep discussion on how relationships – if they’re genuine – bring with them a certain necessary friction wherein one may meet their own conditioned expectations and needs for comfort and security only in relationships that challenge one to see and listen and transform with self-awareness. Indeed, if there’s no tension, there is no relationship; it becomes a comfortable non-relationship, a convenience and an escape from reality.

We talked too of Fear; of there being two kinds: one instinctive and related to survival re food, clothing and shelter, and another imagined fear being psychological – mind-made, produced and believed by the apparent ‘me’. We explored how the craving to become in relationships – rather than to simply be, here and now – causes personal fears that one’s projected (conditioned) desires will not be met and achieved. Freedom from fear comes with one’s direct recognition and understanding of the source and past cause of it. In sum, the past mind-made nature of fear can only be comprehended and dissolved in the present, in passive awareness. In aware living, there is no past, no tomorrow – no fear.

Kind regards
James Waite

AWARE LIVING CAFE March 2/24

There were 12  international zoom Cafe attendees; most were returning supporters. The themes from K’s Book Of Life were Dependence and Attachment. We talked about the deep need to be free, and that the free mind that has humility can actually learn, and that all learning is only when one observes clearly, moment to moment, without opinions,  judgement and beliefs that filter the direct recognition of ‘what is, as is.’ We discussed the fact that mind’s are limited to moving from the known, to the known, and that underlying insecurity – the conscious and subconscious conditioned responses to challenge – is an escape and the source of fear and attachment. We further discussed that in truth (which ultimately cannot be avoided) one does not know, and that there is in fact, no ‘knower‘ . We ended on a note of recognizing that the essential nature of one’s freedom from dependence and attachment lies not in any books or ‘outside’ authorities but only in deep and deepening  inner self-knowing; in directly recognizing that all that one is, is choiceless, infinite awareness: love, peace, beauty and joy.
Regards,
James Waite