This Light in Oneself: True Meditation
February 9 – 11, 2024
With Cynthia Overweg
Zoom Online
Cynthia joined us online from the UK for a series of three sessions exploring the teachings of J. Krishnamurti on the subject of meditation. Each session was attended by 15 or 16 participants in total. Cynthia made use of striking photographic images in order to support her well-constructed words, in many cases taken from Krishnamurti’s talks or writings. Over many years he taught and discussed his perspectives in the public domain as well as privately. Cynthia also played brief passages of music to support our going inwards during moments of silent sitting while watching the breath and feeling our feet on the floor.
As an introduction, Cynthia shared some of the most essential aspects of K’s teaching, which often involved observing ourselves in our daily transactions with others and with the world around us. She made a strong point of the fact that Krishnamurti’s words were an attempt to express the “wordless”, the beauty beneath and within the words and ideas. She emphasised, as K did, the fact of light in the natural world and the “mystery” of it. On Friday the focus was on the question “What does it mean to be a light to oneself” and “What is true meditation?” Are the two separate?
Cynthia pointed out that, for Krishnamurti, meditation was not a technique. It was a seeing of “what is”, an understanding of oneself at the very depths of one’s being. It was the emptying of the mind of all activity of the self. Ordinarily the observer separates itself from the observed, creating the “me” and the “you”. Can we look without the interpreting process, without translating our observations into words? Nobody but ourselves can teach us about ourselves. We experimented with noticing all activity of the self, the arising of images, the slightest movements of thought, and the formation of a fragmentary existence in oneself. There was some discussion of these issues in the group.
Cynthia shared what K himself had also shared in his lifetime when he stated that light can only appear in us when we carefully examine ourselves. In fact, looking at ourselves affects the whole consciousness of humanity. This was a significant feature of K’s teaching wherein he challenged us to be aware of our conditioning, to be free of it, and asked if we can create a totally different society. Much of the material studied on Saturday took up this question about which K was extremely passionate. Cynthia shared many quotes guiding students’ explorations of the conditioned mind, awareness, meditation, and self-observation. Is the entity that desires to free itself different from the conditioning? Can an analytical process free the mind from its own creation of a “self”? The seeing of the limitation of such seeking may bring freedom without any seeking and the mind may become quiet. If we begin to understand ourself without trying to change, then what we are may undergo a transformation. Meditation is looking and listening without controlling. It is not a means to an end: it is both the means and the end.
We tried observing a number of evocative photographs and the effect they had on us. Krishnamurti was quoted. “When you are a light to yourself you are a light to the world because the world is you and you are the world”
On the second day we spent a good deal of time looking at issues of authority and fear. What are some of the obstacles preventing our full understanding of our true nature? If we can understand these things then we don’t have to identify with them and we may be able to break away from all authority, including the authority of our own experience. We must face our own insecurities and be aware that we are frightened of losing the “known”. In such awareness the problem of fear may be resolved.
On the third day we looked more deeply into the nature of love and its relation to beauty. We were encouraged to speak of our personal issues with love, compassion, and living “from the heart”. Cynthia had many quotes on love and the difficulties of living without a centre or a “me”. Love is beyond thought and time. When there is no mind being dominant, then there is love.
The three-day workshop ended with some expressions of appreciation from the participants, many of whom praised Cynthia for her hard work and dedication in putting together such an extensive presentation. She had created a space of beauty and wisdom wherein there was a sense of relaxing into a space of looking and listening which was supportive, nurturing, and enjoyable, providing meaningful insights. DB
Self-inquiry, March 3, 2024
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauExploring Ourselves
March 3, 2024
With Jackie McInley
Zoom Online
Jackie joined us online from London, England, for this Sunday morning (Pacific Time) meeting. Initially there were 11 participants present but one soon left due to poor internet reception at her location. Those remaining then attempted to connect with what we’d been dialoguing about during the previous meeting to see if we wanted to go back and continue to explore the subject in greater depth. What was most remembered was an interest in the significance of listening and being listened to, which could turn into a profound sense of “being heard” and “understood”. We collectively wondered what it is that we feel we need, including what sorrow needs in the way of support. Is it to be acknowledged? To be loved? Are we hurt in some way and wanting to be affirmed? Can we look carefully into the subject? Are we seeking to support the egoic self in us? When we hear ourselves speaking with our parents’ voices, can we stop and look at what we are trying to say deeply but not get caught in our identities? Is it possible, we asked, to look at exactly what goes on when we listen to others and to ourselves at the same time.
Is it “connection” we are seeking in our relationships? What do we mean by connection? Does it imply that we must negate the self we have “created” and break through the programming and conditioning that keeps us stuck in our personalities and cut off from love? And what is love? Is it a programmed response? Is it romantic? Spiritual? Does it involve beliefs, or is it beyond beliefs? Are we afraid of each other and limited by that fear? The dialogue went on for a good couple of hours then seemed to come to a natural ending with some closing comments by Jackie stressing the importance of “seeing”. If there is no seeing, she offered, then the conditioned responses continue. When there is seeing then the patterns may come to an end and something “new” may be revealed in our relating.
DB
WHAT IS INTELLIGENCE?
/in Sharings /by James WaiteAWARE LIVING CAFE, FEB 17/24
/in Event Summaries /by James WaiteExploring Ourselves, February 18, 2024
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauExploring Ourselves
With Jackie McInley
February 18, 2024
Zoom online
Jackie joined us online from the UK for this dialogue meeting attended by eleven people in total. The session began with some discussion of the previous meeting which had featured a newcomer to the group and had included some conflict as a result of differing ideas concerning how to go about engaging in a dialogue. It was suggested by a couple of participants in today’s group that we’d have more effective communication if we examined people’s actions while observing them as examples of universal human tendencies rather than idiosyncratic habits of separate individuals which can be judged as “right” or “wrong”, intelligent or otherwise, and so on. Also, it would be more useful to look at our own reactions rather than pointing out other persons’ reactions. This took us into a sharing of past experiences featuring fight, flight, and freeze responses and then into a discussion of our motivations in exploring the nature of our communications. We questioned if there is a possibility of healing when we explore difficult issues in our dialogues. The exploration moved into looking at our pain, with some arising of sadness and tears within the group. We questioned whether unfinished childhood experiences might carry old pain into the present moment and if there is still conflict in us at a deep level. Are we attempting to escape from old and deep levels of pain in ourselves? And how can we best deal with such energies? Can we stay with the pain, listening to it as if it were a child? It was suggested that, as human beings, we may often be open to the idea that there is something wrong with us. We may not have been properly loved as a child and may still be suffering the results of such treatment as a sense of sorrow as adults. Can the incomplete process of childhood be completed as adults? It was very interesting to probe into these issues and to investigate our conditioning in the complex world of emotional and psychological development from childhood forward to present experience.
DB
This Light in Oneself, February 9 – 11, 2024
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauThis Light in Oneself: True Meditation
February 9 – 11, 2024
With Cynthia Overweg
Zoom Online
Cynthia joined us online from the UK for a series of three sessions exploring the teachings of J. Krishnamurti on the subject of meditation. Each session was attended by 15 or 16 participants in total. Cynthia made use of striking photographic images in order to support her well-constructed words, in many cases taken from Krishnamurti’s talks or writings. Over many years he taught and discussed his perspectives in the public domain as well as privately. Cynthia also played brief passages of music to support our going inwards during moments of silent sitting while watching the breath and feeling our feet on the floor.
As an introduction, Cynthia shared some of the most essential aspects of K’s teaching, which often involved observing ourselves in our daily transactions with others and with the world around us. She made a strong point of the fact that Krishnamurti’s words were an attempt to express the “wordless”, the beauty beneath and within the words and ideas. She emphasised, as K did, the fact of light in the natural world and the “mystery” of it. On Friday the focus was on the question “What does it mean to be a light to oneself” and “What is true meditation?” Are the two separate?
Cynthia pointed out that, for Krishnamurti, meditation was not a technique. It was a seeing of “what is”, an understanding of oneself at the very depths of one’s being. It was the emptying of the mind of all activity of the self. Ordinarily the observer separates itself from the observed, creating the “me” and the “you”. Can we look without the interpreting process, without translating our observations into words? Nobody but ourselves can teach us about ourselves. We experimented with noticing all activity of the self, the arising of images, the slightest movements of thought, and the formation of a fragmentary existence in oneself. There was some discussion of these issues in the group.
Cynthia shared what K himself had also shared in his lifetime when he stated that light can only appear in us when we carefully examine ourselves. In fact, looking at ourselves affects the whole consciousness of humanity. This was a significant feature of K’s teaching wherein he challenged us to be aware of our conditioning, to be free of it, and asked if we can create a totally different society. Much of the material studied on Saturday took up this question about which K was extremely passionate. Cynthia shared many quotes guiding students’ explorations of the conditioned mind, awareness, meditation, and self-observation. Is the entity that desires to free itself different from the conditioning? Can an analytical process free the mind from its own creation of a “self”? The seeing of the limitation of such seeking may bring freedom without any seeking and the mind may become quiet. If we begin to understand ourself without trying to change, then what we are may undergo a transformation. Meditation is looking and listening without controlling. It is not a means to an end: it is both the means and the end.
We tried observing a number of evocative photographs and the effect they had on us. Krishnamurti was quoted. “When you are a light to yourself you are a light to the world because the world is you and you are the world”
On the second day we spent a good deal of time looking at issues of authority and fear. What are some of the obstacles preventing our full understanding of our true nature? If we can understand these things then we don’t have to identify with them and we may be able to break away from all authority, including the authority of our own experience. We must face our own insecurities and be aware that we are frightened of losing the “known”. In such awareness the problem of fear may be resolved.
On the third day we looked more deeply into the nature of love and its relation to beauty. We were encouraged to speak of our personal issues with love, compassion, and living “from the heart”. Cynthia had many quotes on love and the difficulties of living without a centre or a “me”. Love is beyond thought and time. When there is no mind being dominant, then there is love.
The three-day workshop ended with some expressions of appreciation from the participants, many of whom praised Cynthia for her hard work and dedication in putting together such an extensive presentation. She had created a space of beauty and wisdom wherein there was a sense of relaxing into a space of looking and listening which was supportive, nurturing, and enjoyable, providing meaningful insights. DB
AWARE LIVING CAFE, FEB. 3/24
/in Event Summaries /by James WaiteThere were 16 international Aware Living Cafe attendees who registered for this second Zoom meeting in the series of six on K’s Book Of Life. There’s a growing, friendly communication in the group of regulars and new comers who share their keen interests in deepening understanding. The topics of Belief and Becoming (from ‘February’) were robustly explored, with occasional readings from the BOL We started with comments about “All Conflict, all Becoming, is disintegration” and that, as K has stated, “Insight is not to be found in the stream”…In resting in an openly simple silence – like watching while sitting on a sandy bank beside a stream – one is free to let the flow of all the known ‘normal’ thoughts and sensations, distractions, beliefs, conflicts and confused feelings gently pass, come and go. The fact that all Beliefs are false was also explored and that, to perceive the truth requires the understanding of the false.
~ James Waite
Exploring Ourselves, February 4, 2024
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauExploring Ourselves
Jackie joined us from the UK for this online meeting in which we intended to learn about ourselves within the context of the teachings of J. Krishnamurti. In order to do so, K recommended a certain quality of attentiveness. As Jackie explained, the “old brain” may or may not be capable of such attention. Can we face the fact of our own selfishness? Can we give of ourselves and go beyond the usual focus on ourselves? And what happens when we give attention together, as a cooperative endeavour in which none of us knows any more than anyone else but we each bring our awareness of the moment.
As far as the actual procedure goes, we start with some quiet time then allow some space to see what arises and how we would like to share it. Jackie likes to encourage participants new to the group to share any questions they might have, so she probed a person who had not previously been in dialogue with our group. He did his best to present his question, which was to do with the nature of an individual and the process of “individuation”.
The “new” group member touched on the issue of going beyond the separateness that thought seems to create. If individuation is an illusion then what wakes us up from such an illusion and what keeps the illusion intact? Group members had various contributions to the inquiry, which led to a discussion of “knowing” and “not-knowing”. The experience of entering a state of not-knowing was talked about and the terrifying aspect of such exposure to the “Unknown” was acknowledged by most of the group. It was agreed that there is no ultimate safety in knowing or the known. Can it be seen that trying to find security in the known is a false search and is limited by our conditioning, which gives the known a certain safety value which it in fact does not have. Such orientation can easily cause conflict and must be completely negated, it was suggested.
Jackie suggested that there might be a “communication breakdown” in the group dialogue and some time was spent attempting to see the nature of the problem – with limited success. There was some disagreement about the approach that was being taken to “exploring ourselves” and further investigation appeared to be necessary.
DB
THE MOVEMENT OF THOUGHT AND TIME IN AWARENESS.
/in Sharings /by James Waite~ J Krishnamurti
AWARE LIVING CAFE, JANUARY 20/24
/in Event Summaries /by James WaiteExploring Ourselves, January 21, 2024
/in Event Summaries /by David BruneauTwelve people in total were present for this Sunday morning dialogue session with Jackie, who joined us via Zoom from the UK. Jackie began with some pointers about how to make use of a dialogue meeting. She said that dialogue is mainly about speaking and listening, both at a depth which is “accessible to everybody”. It is not a search for something we can take away and use in our lives. Rather, it is an ongoing “waking up” or “seeing” which opens up as we go. It can be very helpful if we can express ourselves clearly and slowly enough that we can follow what is being shared.
As is usually the case, we began with some quiet time. This allows space for any questions or observations that may arise and for any significant unresolved problems to reveal themselves. The first issue that arose was a question about how we can approach Krishnamurti without depending on him for answers. Do we repeat K’s words and make them into theories, or is a direct seeing into the issue possible? Is thought looking at thought or is there something beyond thought looking at thought or “aware” of thought? One participant expressed frustration with the seemingly slow process of going around in circles with such questions. Was the frustration a fact to simply “be with” or could we immediately go beyond the frustration? There was a good deal of discussion of such points, which could have been experienced as hard work or creative discovery – or some of each.
Closing remarks emphasised the central importance of the action of “seeing” as we inquire into the structures of our consciousness, either in group inquiry or on our own. We will be meeting on the first and third Sundays of each month until further notice.
DB